Re: Humbuckers one volume pot?

"The Chris" <cabell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>>> Hi folks. Hope I can get some help from the experts. I purchased
>>>>> the faded Gibson sG, and played my first gig with it lastnight.
>>>>> Loved how it played and sounded, but the dual volume thing drove me
>>>>> nuts. I want one volume to control both pups. My friend says, "no
>>>>> problem, bring it over". We worked for 3 hours till I was almost
>>>>> in tears. We would get both pups working, but the volume control
>>>>> woudn't, then the volume working, and one pup not. I know I too
>>>>> one of my old guitars I used to have and took it to a guitar tech
>>>>> and he set it up like this, but damn if we could. My friend said
>>>>> that the pot only had one wiper, and that's why he couldn't get
>>>>> both pups to the one pot, but I don't think my other had dual
>>>>> wipers, and the guitar tech did it just fine. Do I have to get a
>>>>> dual wiper volume pot for it, or is there a way to do this.
>>>>> Please, could anyone give me an easy diagram. many dual humbucker
>>>>> guitars come with one volume, so you would think diagrams would be
>>>>> easy to find, but I can't find one. All I want is a my three way
>>>>> switch and two humbuckers hooked to one volume, I don't even care
>>>>> about the tone controls either, if that would be easier, I don't
>>>>> use them. He hooked it back up like it originally was, but I
>>>>> really want one volume for both pups. Any detailed instructions or
>>>>> wiring pic would be great. Will I have to get a volume pot with
>>>>> two wipers? Again, if it would be easier to bypass the tone
>>>>> controls, that would be even better, but no necessary.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>> It's pretty simple wiring. The pickup leads go to the switch
>>>> inputs, then the switch output goes to the volume pot input. You
>>>> don't need two wipers, because the volume pot is working on the sum
>>>> of the pickups (through the switch).
>>>>
>>>> This can be very much like Telecaster wiring, from the switch to the
>>>> jack.
>>>>
>>>> HTH
>>>> -pk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Are you sure about this?? All of my Gibsons are wired the way I laid
>>> it out - pickups >>> Pots >>> Switch >>> output jack. Fenders are
>>> Pickups > Switch > Pot >> output jack.
>>
>> Yes, that's pretty much what I said. You'll be converting it from the
>> "gibson" layout (pickups>pots>switch) to the ::"Fender": layout
>> (pickups>switch>pots).
>>
>> -pk
>>
>>
>>
>
> Why convert it?? In my Les Pauls, the switch is so far away, it's
> prohibitive to require a wire run BACK from the switch.

You'd wind up about the same within an inch or two in either direction,
since the pickup leads would to to the switch rather than the pots. The
neck pickup lead would be significantly shorter, the bridge slightly longer.
The lead from the switch to the output jack would just be interrupted at the
pot. IIRC, the stock wiring sends the leads to the pots, then out to the
switch, then back out to the jack. So, the modification could remove about
eight or more inches of wire, if that matters - you'd have comparable
losses with longer cords to the amp.

> Wouldn't it just
> work by unsoldering the two wires on the other pot, and soldering them to
> the pot you want to use??

That could induce some loading and/or coupling effects.

> Maybe I'm missing something but, I've done that
> in all my guitars, and don't remember the Gibsons posing much of a
> problem that way.

If it works for you, that's fine. Personally, I prefer to use all the
pots. But that's not a value judgement.

HTH
-pk


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