Re: Beginner theory ~ Scale relationship




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On 3 Feb, 08:06, "Master Betty" <em...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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On 31 Jan, 17:46, "Master Betty" <em...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Relationship of:

Scales
Am Pentatonic
G Major
A Dorian

This is a lesson that I found valuable.

http://www.safaricabs.com/01302010%20001.jpg

Call me crazy but if you can wrap your mind around this you've covered
a
lot
of ground.

Hi MB,

This is typical scale theory stuff. This approach can be useful but
IMHO, it can also turn a simple major scale into a host of modes and
scales most people could do fine without. Don't get me wrong, I do use
this stuff however, you'll probably find a lot more benefit from
learning about chord arpeggios and how to use them.

The chord theory approach was really developed as a way of
constructing a solo over the sort of complex chord changes used in
style of music like jazz. IMHO for most rock and pop tunes it's just
over complicating things.

Don't let me put you off learning anything but I really recommend
taking a look a arpeggios ;-)

Green

I'm going to post some sweeping arpeggios but I was thinking about the
second part of this lesson since it got so many interesting comments.

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You've obviously got a lot of this stuff under your belt now. I guess
I like to see chords, intervals, arps, scales etc all taught as one
big interlinked structure.

I find this approach stops me from sounding like I'm just running
through scales (not that that always sounds bad). It also allows me to
include notes found in some advanced altered scales without thinking
altered scale.

I advocate thinking about the chords your playing over then, learning
those three or four note scales which only contain safe notes, we call
them arpeggios ;-) Next learn the three or four extra notes you can
add to the arps to give you scales. These can includes notes you can
flatten to make blue notes. As this process goes along you also learn
how to jump between notes using different intervals. Of course, when
you encounter fancier chords you have different arps and learn new
scales etc.

Because of this approach I'm always cautious of scales present without
a context, as they so often are.

Green




Thank you and I'll never use emoticons again.


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Relevant Pages

  • Re: Chuck Wayne Scales book
    ... presents the material really makes sense to learn chords in a systematic ... There's anoGether one on Scales, ... company regarding the most important book, "Arpeggios". ... book on the yahoo jazz group site under the Files link; ...
    (rec.music.makers.guitar.jazz)
  • Re: Rameaus legacy
    ... was idea of naturalness of major and minor triads. ... progressions of scales which include corresponding chords. ...
    (rec.music.theory)
  • Re: Rameaus legacy
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  • Re: free jazz anyone?
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