Re: Cheap, cost effective upgrades

Charmed Snark <snark@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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On Oct 22, 3:52 pm, Charmed Snark <sn...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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On Oct 22, 3:11 pm, Charmed Snark <sn...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Lumpy expounded innews:7kbhshF352jgpU1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:

One is your compensated nut argument. The scientific world
is pretty much stacked against you and Buzzy and Earvana on
that. You don't hear 3c no matter what you think and no matter
what the sales pitches have led you to believe.
Lumpy
..
It not an absolute pitch thing ( I can't tell that) it's in a cord
( relative pitch ) so tune an open cord say a C so each note is
perfect to a tuner - play slowly let it ring and listen carfully ,
and then wack out just a 5th (open g) @ 3c - strum slowly same
cord - it s now sour. Ed

Ok, I was way off. Wikipedia sez:

"1200 cents are equal to one octave".

So one semitone is 100 cents (1200/12), and so
this means that 3c is 3% of a semitone.

So the difference from the A to A#, starting
with 440 Hz, is then 466.16-440 Hz,
with the difference being only 26.16 Hz.

Now 3/100 of that, or 3%, is 0.78 Hz!

That means you have to discern between

440.00 hz and 440.78 hz!

I doubt I could hear that difference.

But I don't want to become THAT good.

Snark.

Is your tuner capable ? try it in a cord. ed

I forgot to try it last night, but I do believe
that you can change this tuner from 440 up and
down in 1 hz steps.

I can pretty much guarantee that I won't hear
the 1hz steps by themselves. But I'll keep an
open mind until I try it.

The next thing to try is to beat two signals
together, only 3c apart. That too is very
close, so I am skeptical.

Snark.

We figured it was ~0.8 Hz at A = 440 Hz, right?
All you gotta do is have a situation where the strings will sustain for
longer than a few seconds, and you'll hear plenty of beats. Get the
frequencies closer together and the beats will be farther apart in time,
and vice-versa.

The beats are easier to hear with a bass (maybe because both my basses
sustain a long time). Sometimes I'll rough tune a bass by, say,
plucking the open D string and fretting the D on the A string and
plucking both at the same time, then tune one of the strings until the
beats go away. Do the same thing with the (E, A) and (D, G) strings and
you've got it close, at least in terms of relative pitch.


.

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