Re: Illinois smoking ban.

On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 13:21:50 -0800 (PST), Jack Wagner <jack.wagner@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
| On Jan 7, 3:05 pm, bitbucket <bitbuc...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
| > On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 10:38:30 -0800 (PST), Jack Wagner
| > | They're not banning smoking or taking away any of your "rights",
| > | they're regulating *where* you can smoke due to the nature of it's
| > | effects on other people.
| >
| > i am not talking about ``my rights'' as a smoker. i don't smoke.
| >
| > i am talking about taking a way my rights as a business owner and affecting
| > my ability to create the type of environment i want to in order to create a
| > profit for myself.
| >
| > that's the only point i am trying to make.
| >
| > it's easy to be for a smoking ban, because everyone hates cigarette smoke,
| > myself included.
| >
| > like i said, it's a very slippery slope.
|
| Ah - I see your point. I'm a believer in small government (the
| Government is here to serve the people, not the other way around) but,
| I don't have a problem when they step in and try to enforce laws that
| make things safer for us, despite what we may *want* to do. In this
| case they're making laws that make the work environment safer for
| employees and patrons. It's hard to argue with this in this case IMO.

but, see anti-smoking legislation is such an easy target, because so many
people abhor the smoke. the children, the children!!!!

since we in the USA still have free will, don't frequent places that allow
smoking, don't work as a bartender/serer in a place that allows smoking.
it's simply a matter of freedom of choice.

would you be just as happy if your governemnt banned trans fats or foie gras
in restaurants?

no trans fats would make our food safer (ok foie gras doesn't fit neatly
into this argument). think of all the heart attacks that would be prevented.
same with saturated fats.

think of all the duck's lives that could be spared if foie gras were banned
nationwide.

all the same freedom is at stake here, folks. i will say it again: a _very_
slippery slope.

sorry, i really didn't start ranting to become flame bait, or start ad hominem
attacks or anything like that. sure this topic is a bit OT for a.b.g, but i
actually think the context in which PT brought this up sort of makes it
on-topic, as there are quite a few who make their living playing live music
in venues that may allow smoking.

and losing more and more freedoms due to goverment regulations is something
i vehemently oppose.

now i will shut up and practice.
.

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