Re: How to _Spell_ Chromatic Scales


"David Raleigh Arnold" <darnold4@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.01.30.13.54.12.815628@xxxxxxxxxx
> On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 19:37:11 +0000, Roger E. Blumberg wrote:

> >> On 29 Jan 2006, "Roger E. Blumberg" <rblumbergSANS@xxxxxxx> wrote in
> >> news:qg6Df.6961$Dk.989@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:

> > P.S. If you, or anyone, think I'm full of sh*t at any time just say so,
> > who knows, I may be at any given moment, and you may be right to call me
> > on it. Better to do that, call me on it, then store it up. I've been
> > there, with some people, and have been know to be a bit explosive at
> > times, given the person, or the quantity of accumulated unspoken
stored-up
> > irritation, etc.


> "Screw you", would seem to fit in that category.

Calling me when I'm _wrong_ (and I wasn't) is one thing. But then, even
after I had explained to you _why_ it was that it was _you_ David, who was
mistaken, you came back a _second_ time with your "do your homework, look it
up, you should have known it" remark. It was at that point, that second
time, that I said "screw you already David". I then I explained it again,
and again, and again, and you're still at it.

> Your post should have illustrated the standard chromatic scale in the
> key. You could have also derived it, by considering concatenating
> the major and harmonic minor modes in a tonality:
>
> C D Eb E F G G# A Bb B
>
> which leaves you with only the decision whether to use C#, which is
> less remote, or Db,

Your "model example" leaves you with _many_ other decisions, other needs,
other materials and constructions that could _never_ be fulfilled David, not
with that limited number of available letter-names. Any observant first year
student should be able to see that, David. It's absurd, patently ridiculous,
that proposal and your stubborn insistence upon it, both.

> which expresses that no chord built on it could
> be a tonic chord. Db would get my vote, but I don't remember whether
> that's standard or not. I don't think the Wikipedia was necessarily
> right. It's been a long time since I saw a source for the standard
> chromatic scale.

It's been a "long time" since you've seen it because _there is no such
thing_ David, and no such "standard". No one, and no music web site, is
repeating it, no one is reproducing it, no one is advocating it's use,
because there is no such thing. I don't even see it at Wikipedia, not that
it matters if they do show something like it because as I've explained
repeatedly, nothing short of the combined 17 letter chromatic scale spelling
resource will even begin to satisfy all spelling needs from any tonic or
root. Even if you add the four band-aids, E#, Fb, B# and Cb, that's still
not enough. You'll still need double-flats and double sharps quite often. In
other words, even the *standard* 17 letter flats and sharps combined as-one
chromatic scale spelling resource is only a convenient greater jumping off
point resource, even _it_ is not enough. But it's good enough for _most_
things. Nothing less could possibly do, work, succeed, become the standard
and standard minimum that it _is_. So here now I've repeated myself yet
again, and I have no doubt you still won't get it thought your head.

> Again, you should have looked it up, no matter what it took

fact is I _did_ humor you David, but for only a moment, and I resisted doing
even that for quite some time. I _did_ take a quick check around, thinking
maybe I was crazy or something, like maybe the earth's magnetic poles had
shifted while I wasn't looking or something. Your idiotic claim and your
arrogant posture and attitude threw me for a loop for a second. My initial
reaction was "???!!!!! What the f*ck is he talking about". It didn't take
more than a minute to confirm my sanity though. Your comment and claim was
almost as bizarre as some collage freshman scolding his science teacher,
telling him "the earth is flat, do your homework, look it up, you should
have known that, everyone knows that". I was a fool for even entertaining
you for a second, doing a quick Google check, but I do feel responsible
enough not to spout rubbish in the guise of tutelage, particularly on such
a basic and fundamental concept, so just in case, just in case there had
been a silent pole-shift recently, I did check, some time later. It's been a
while since I first did "my homework" on this topic David, and apparently I
_did_ get it right the first time around, even though I am largely
self-taught. It's precisely because I am self taught, self motivated, was
truly eager to know and understand, that I did almost "reinvent the wheel"
the first time around. I tore things apart nut and bolt and put them back
together again, myself, to really _know_ it as best I could. And it's
because of that that you'll sometimes hear me say things that you _know_ I
didn't get from any run of the mill text book or web site article on basic
music theory. You did in fact help me to refresh my memory re a couple
details so I guess I should thank you for the opportunity of doing that.

> instead of going off at me.

you got off easy, David. I _was_ in a rush that day, but there were more
that a few expletives at the tip of my tongue at that moment. I just didn't
have the time to pick the best choice few to use at that moment, so I left
them out entirely.

> It's usenet. Sheesh. daveA

yes it is, and Usenet is often populated with very intelligent but very
arrogant freshman.

Roger


.

Relevant Pages

  • Re: How to do a soft return?
    ... I remember the first time I used a Telex machine and the speed of the ... > One had the option of manually causing the carriage return plus line feed ... > extended as the American National Standard Code for Information ... > Binary Coded Decimal Interchange Code. ...
    (microsoft.public.word.newusers)
  • Re: Spoiler - Umpteenth episode
    ... Well done Ruth! ... Anyone who tuned in for the first time after all the build up ... Sam is going to react. ... Unless she is planning on going home and telling David the whole sorry ...
    (uk.media.radio.archers)
  • Re: tearing me barnet out!
    ... "nick" wrote in message ... The first time I ever used it, it took me a while to realise ... (noise out of speakers then picked up by mic and so on). ... Epi Les Paul Standard ...
    (uk.music.guitar)
  • Re: Harry Haters!
    ... dmclallen@xxxxxxxxx (David) wrote; ... > Hildr Katze wrote: ... >LOL! ... The standard is that these people don't ...
    (alt.fan.harry-potter)
  • Re: Godel proved maths inconsistent not incompleteness theorem
    ... sentences coincide with the unrefutable ones, ... Why not just say Rosser's theorem itself is "standard"? ... can give an even shorter proof. ... David C. Ullrich- Hide quoted text - ...
    (sci.logic)