Re: question about teaching and learning guitar (Master Musicians)
- From: "Greg Cisko" <gcisko@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 19:06:18 -0500
"Mike C." <Funkifized@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Well, you're wrong. First, Van Halen reads music. Second, there was one
> Hendrix. So what? Do you have his talent? I don't. I think I'd rather work
So what??? Did you actually say "so what"? Duh let me see....
Yep. It proves that you do not have to read music to master guitar.
It says nothing about how good you or anyone else is. Or how many
hendrix's there were or will be. Are you for real with this are you just
trying to make trouble? I think the latter. Sheesh. You know what
don't even bother replying.
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gcisko@xxxxxxxxxxx
> on being the best musician that I can, rather than hope that I can do what
> Hendrix did and failing miserably.
>
> Yeah, teach the 8-year-old that he can be Hendrix if he doesn't learn to
> read. Maybe you should teach him that he could be president if he dodges
> military and doesn't learn to speak complete sentences.
>
> --
> Mike C.
> http://mikecrutcher.com
> Teaching: http://findmeateacher.com/contact.php?id=1107
>
> "As the light changed from red to green to yellow and back to red again, I
> sat there thinking about life. Was it nothing more than a bunch of honking
> and yelling? Sometimes it seemed that way."
> - Jack Handey
>
> "Greg Cisko" <gcisko@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> Forget the epistle. Did Hendrix and Van Halen read music? I am
>> thinking the answer is NO. And that right there ends the debate.
>>
>> --
>>
>> gcisko@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>> "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" <ve3wwg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:hQvGe.6691$q23.1145203@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Greg Cisko wrote:
>> >> "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" <ve3wwg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> news:7jsGe.6564$q23.1098436@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>
>> >>>Is the musician really a "master" if he cannot read
>> >>>music? I suppose people might use different definitions
>> >>>for "master musician".
>> >>
>> >> Did Hendrix and Van Halen read music?
>> >
>> > Obviously "master" applies to some level of musicianship. So
>> > I guess we come back to what is a "musician"?
>> >
>> > The online dictionaries sez :
>> >
>> >
> http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=musician&x=0&y=0
>> >
>> > Main Entry: mu·si·cian
>> > Pronunciation: myu-'zi-sh&n
>> > Function: noun
>> > : a composer, conductor, or performer of music; especially :
>> > INSTRUMENTALIST
>> > - mu·si·cian·ly /-lE/ adjective
>> > - mu·si·cian·ship /-"ship/ noun
>> >
>> > ================
>> >
>> > http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=musician :
>> >
>> > mu·si·cian Audio pronunciation of "musician" ( P ) Pronunciation Key
>> > (my-zshn)
>> > n.
>> > One who composes, conducts, or performs music, especially
> instrumental
>> > music.
>> >
>> > [Middle English musicien, from Old French, from Latin msica, music. See
>> > music.]
>> >
>> > ================
>> >
>> > Given that both of these definitions specify composes "OR"
>> > performs music, I suppose you could reach the conclusion that
>> > you can be a musician if you only perform it. It also says
>> > compose it, without any mention of reading/writing it (you
>> > can obviously compose a song without writing it).
>> >
>> > Comparison of people (musicians) is fraught with problems
>> > (which one is more of a master?) because it really depends
>> > upon the criteria you want to use. Its like trying to
>> > decide what is the "best car" or "best guitar".
>> >
>> > But, if it were to happen in cases where "all else were
>> > equal", I would say that the superior musician would be
>> > the one that could read/write music (he would be the master
>> > within the two). In a sense, this by itself (I believe)
>> > will tend to make all things else NOT equal, because he
>> > will leverage that reading/theory ability in his playing
>> > and composition (and voiding the comparison to start with).
>> >
>> > I'll have to think about this some more. I am beginning
>> > to think there is no settling this ;-)
>> >
>> > Warren.
>>
>>
>
>
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