Re: Question for fretless players

On Jul 23, 5:49 pm, JimmyM <m...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:57:49 -0700 (PDT), "dustoyev...@xxxxxxx"





<dustoyev...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jul 23, 10:27 am, "Steve Freides" <st...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
bassman2 wrote:
On Jul 23, 9:22 am, "Steve Freides" <st...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
edspyhill01 wrote:
On Jul 21, 12:54 pm, edspyhill01 <edspyhil...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I just received my Basstar 4-string fretless. I've read that
fretless is a different animal and it certainly is. I don't feel
tied to the frets. Suddenly the notes are the focus of my
attention. I think "note" not "fret". There is something magical
about playing the fretless. Today I'm picking up a Planet Waves
Strobe Tuner to use as I do the lessons. I used a small clip-on
tuner last night which worked fine for then.

As for method books, I did a bunch of searchs and it looks like the
best book is the Symandl. I have the book "My First Symandl" for
double bass that I started last night. That book is a short
compliation of the Symandl method and an etude book for beginners..
I don't think anyone has a dedicated fretless method book out
there. (I like Ed Friedland's approach in his bass method that
uses upright bass position.)

I hope to take lessons with an UB teacher in the area but my layoff
is about 2 -3 months away so finances will be an issue. (I'm buying
all my "necessities" now.)

Any advice for a new bass guitar fretless student?

Ed S.

Thanks to all. I'm not staring at the tuner while I play. I spent
some time working on the current position coordinating LH finger
locations with visual feedback from the tuner and listening to the
headphone amp.

I also went back to the Ed Friedland book once I felt confident with
the second position. I do a little extra checking. I find "G" is
not a fret but a fairly precise spot on the E-string.

With the low notes and flatwound strings I could be a little sharp
or flat and not be noticed? I don't want to fudge the intonation.

Thanks for the advice. I'll check back when I complete book 1.

Ed S

Being able to fudge intonation is one of the wonders of playing
fretless, e.g., you roll your finger a little forward and the pitch
goes up.

Surely not (!) from the same person that wrote within the same thread
"I think it's
largely to do with one's ear, and I've been blessed with a good one,
not
to mention perfect pitch, so it really wasn't much of a transition...."

ehehheeeehhe, it wasn't a gee up, was it Steve?

:)  Perfect pitch doesn't guarantee that you put your fingers in the
right place every time - would be nice if it worked that way, though, I
agree.

Maybe "perfect pitch" or strong relative pitch as I've heard it
described, can be as much a curse as a "blessing". Like when my
daughter couldn't control her reactions, in middle school, to a voice
teacher who consistently sang flat <g>.

i think people who have such strong reactions to out of tuneness are
showing off.  i have perfect pitch (well, did until old age got the
best of me), and while i could tell when stuff was out of tune, i
didn't get headaches or puke or have to cover my ears.  

I'm sure some are.
We're talking about a 6th grader here.
A learning experience for her, but just pointing out that PP is a
great ability that does not always come without a price to pay <g>.
--D-y
.

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