Re: guitar synth stuff
- From: "js" <nothing@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 14:41:50 -0800
I haven't got to most of this yet. Short answers:
1) you typically use a "divided pickup" that has a separate pickup for each
string. A special cable carries the signals from each pickup as well as
signal from other controls to the synth itself. The pickup is NOT the synth.
2) In a "pitch to MIDI" scheme, the guitar signal is processed, the pitch
detected, and it's assigned a MID number. In other synths, the guitar tone
is processed and used the way and oscillator would be used on an analog
synth. These two schemes are generally not compatible.
3) Yes, there are a variety of ways to do open tunings.But the thing is,
they won't sound like YOUR guitar. Remember, a synth is not a distortion
pedal; if you use a MIDI synth, you are using 0s and 1s to trigger preset
patches. There is NO natural guitar sound involved.
4) Yes, bass is doable. It's something I use all the time. You can either
get a piccolo set, or play your standard bass above the 12th fret - then you
pitch the SYNTH PATCH down an octave. The new synths are great at tracking
even a low B string, so I don't use this approach as much as I used to.
5) As far as "emulating" boutique basses, that's more of the processor type
of synth, and you'll have to find a sound module that has those sounds built
in. I've tried the Line 6 VAriax which claims to have vintage bass sounds. I
The best thing is to figure out what you want, and do your homework on
Google, then go try some out if you can.
Based on what you are tellingme, I'd start with the Roland VG/VB99 demo
display at GC and go from there. Yes it will work with bass, but they
probably won';t have a MIDI capable bass ready to play. Just check out the
sounds and the play feel.
"Benj" <bjacoby@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
On Jan 23, 4:00 am, "js" <noth...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
This isn't an overview of all the possible ways to record MIDI. I'm justRichL said:
showing what MIDI guitar is capable of. It's also a lot faster than the
piano roll method, FWIW.
Nice, well-written articles. I'm looking forward to seeing more detail
in future chapters.
But speaking as a noob, I'm confused. Seems you aren't basic enough
for me! How does this work? Do you take a standard guitar and plug it
into the synth module and then it somehow extracts all the notes from
the various strings and locks to them and then uses that to generate
ANY other sound that tacks the notes? [This is my understanding]
But some of the synth instruments I've seen have some kind of pickup
on the guitar that pickup each string individually and locks to them.
This way it doesn't have to sort out the notes. But then you need a
whole new guitar, right? [A local guitarist who has a "one man band"
gig at a local restaurant has this kind of rig]
One thing that interests me (I've got a Robot Gibson LP and an SG) is
open tuning. Seems to me one should be able (with the separate string
pickups fer sure) to leave the strings tuned a certain way (say
standard tuning...or for that matter all the same note!) and have the
synth set the pitch (tuning) of each string. This way you could change
open tunings with a touch of a button!
But now we get to my REAL interest. Bass Synth! You note that one can
get synth output from a guitar or a bass. Hence you can make a guitar
a bass and a bass a guitar! But what I want is to make a BASS play
BASS! My understanding of some of the bass synth things sold in the
past is that the bass takes too long to lock compared to a guitar.
So here's what I'm thinking. A synth bass that is 34" scale or
certainly not shorter than short scale. Has synth pickups on each
string. But strings are tuned very high (like guitar strings) so they
lock and track like gangbusters. Now at this point you've got a synth
bass that you should be able to dial in ANY bass sound including all
yer Fenders and hyper-expensive boutique stuff and that's before you
start getting weird!
As I said I know nothing about this stuff, so what do you think? Am I
way out of line, or is all this stuff just waiting for me to buy on
the net at my first Google search? Inquiring minds what to know...
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