Re: Joe The Pianist?

On Nov 29, 11:41 pm, pTooner <geddi...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


I'll try again.  Who decides what a particular executive deserves?

The marketplace of executive jobs. Which is not run in a naturally-
occurring way that exposes itself to market forces AT ALL. It is a
jerry-rigged system, and so your whole idea is kaput. It's the kind of
"Logic" that got John McCain elected. Oh, wait...

Last
I knew it was the owners of the company in the form of the shareholders
and their representatives the board of directors.  The general business
model is you hire who can produce the most for the least cost.  If I
hire a guy for $20 per hour and he produces three times as much as
another guy who I pay $10 hour who is over paid?

Which makes a HUGE assumption that these CEOs are producing greater
profits. How's that workin' out for ya? I guess all those CEOs bailing
out of failing companies, grabbing a few million on the way out, while
stopping off at the front desk to drop off the press release
announcing the bankruptcy of the company's pension plan, are just a
'Lib'rul boogeyman."


        Theft is when you take something that is not yours.  If I hire someone
for any amount of money that he agrees to, I'm not taking anything away
from him.

Ahhh, the Republican Side-Step, how graceful! NOBODY said you're
cheating HIM, although you are if you pay him less than what the law
says he's entitled to, which Wal-Mart does all the time. Then they
lock these illegal immigrants in all night, knowing they can't
complain. Did you mention the American Way? No, you're cheating ME,
and anyone else that hoped to earn a living wage.


 Your logic just doesn't hold water.  In the final analysis we
are each responsible for ourselves.

We've come to the crux of it. YOUR logic is the one that holds no
water. In ANY accurate analysis, the very foundation of civilization
is that we are all responsible for each other. ANIMALS are each
responsible for themselves. Communal responsibility is part and parcel
of the decision to raise ourselves out of the muck and stand on our
hind legs. Your philosophy, which I suspect comes from a Randian or
Objectivist base (and is thus insane) is cruel, devoid even of W's
"compassionate conservatism." Your philosophy says Katrina victims got
what they deserve. Is that how you feel?


 It's when we give up that
responsibility that we get in trouble.

Was Ken Lay responsible?
How about the Big Three, you guys love to bash manufacturers. Were
they responsible?
Worldcom?
Tyco?

The honest businessman is the exception, not the rule. Ask Warren
Buffett.


 Your system is to vilify
everyone who is doing well for themselves.

Oh, what a smelly little chunk of self-serving crap. Your black-and-
white, for-us-or-against-us logic is internally inconsistent and self-
defeating. It is exactly what has landed us in this mess to begin
with. Don't you have any shame?


 That is NOT the American way.

No, the American way is to first enslave Africans, then wage-enslave
Chinese and Irish thousands of miles from home, then Mexicans who are
in the country illegally and can't complain about the unending labor
abuses that go on. You know this is true. Yet you prattle on about
your textbook economic theory, ignoring the massive corruption that
renders those theories a bad joke, with the worker as the *** of it.
You really DON'T have any shame, do you?
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