Re: Guitar intonation problem?
- From: "C. W. Smith" <cwsmith@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:26:00 -0400
Yes and I've picked up a guitar that wasn't that dusty nor the strings that old (remember, this is a guitar that was being played in a club and yes they may be old and need changed however I don't think that the strings are that dusty, etc) and the strings were tuned however when you get to a certain point on the guitar they were no longer in tune.
My problem with all of this and it should be everyone's issue with this too, there were suggestions and then arguments on what the issue is and not one thing has been proven other than it COULD happen. Without the full information such as having the guitar player change the strings we're not really going to know. BTW, never once did I or anyone that I've read here say that the guitar needs to be setup but don't change the strings. The other issue I have is that from what little information we have received, the guitar changed suddenly not over time. I may be wrong on this however with Joesparebedroom having the issue with wanting a guitar player able to play the key of the song without being told then I just can't see him allowing a guitar player to play out of key just because the end was near.
"Derek Tearne" <derek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:1ip67cm.1xbb872cvvppyN%derek@xxxxxxxxxxxx
C. W. Smith <cwsmith@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I do agree with everyone that old strings can and will change the intonation
however the original post stated that the intonation problem happened when
playing above the 12th fret, if it were strings then as a rule it wouldn't
matter where you played they would cause intonation problems. Am I missing
something or is someone else missing this?
Yup. You're missing something.
Have you ever picked up someones guitar with really old strings on it.
The wear to the strings is typically to the neck end. Worn through
windings, crud, cruft etc. The dusty end of the neck gets less use so
the strings there will have less damage - and the string beyond the neck
will be differently damaged. Playing above the 12th fret will be
playing relatively undamaged string. Given the type and age of the
string the properties could change quite a lot between the below 12th
and above 12th positions.
There are several other reasons why the guitar might vary above the 12th
fret - but if the strings are old it makes no sense to do a proper set
up without replacing the strings - we're talking skinny guitar strings
here, not bass strings - and if changing the strings actually fixes the
issues then it makes no sense to go further and do the set up.
--- Derek
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Derek Tearne - derek@xxxxxxxxx
Many Hands - Trans Cultural Music from Aotearoa/New Zealand
http://www.manyhands.co.nz/
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