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- From: Benj <bjacoby@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:41:41 -0700 (PDT)
On Jun 12, 10:50 pm, "js" <nothing AT nothing DOT com> wrote:
This is coming from a registered Libertarian:
Libertarian my ass! Registered Commie maybe...
The major problem is that thanks to the Gun Lobby, American gunowners can't
distinguish between "rights" and "regulation".
Lessee "rights" means you can do it and the government can't stop you.
"regulation" means they can stop you from doing it if they are in the
mood. This is hard to understand?
EVERY one of the bull of rights has been subject to legal limitations of
some sort, from libel to eminent domain, and so forth.
"Bull of Rights"? Yep shows where you are coming from "js". Here's a
news flash, your dream "workers paradise" the USSR crashed and burned
because there system was so unworkable! Yeah, I know you think it's
only "sleeping" and if only they elect YOU and YOURS to a left-wing
administration you'll be ready to show 'em all how it REALLY should be
done! Rights? We doan need no stinkin' RIGHTS! KGB does it all!
US v Miller makes a pretty airtight case that the government has the power
to REGULATE things like the size of guns, where and when they may be used,
etc. Otherwise, you would LITERALLY have some dumbass with a nuclear warhead
stashed in his garage for "personal protection".
Total bull***. US v Miller established that the Second Amendment
refers to a soldier's standard equipment of the day. Please note that
included "assault rifles", hand grenades, machine guns, and RPGs but
does NOT include "atomic bombs". IF you'd actually take time to READ
the document you are trashing you'd see that even STATES are not
allowed to keep warships. And that is not part of the second
Amendment.
That may sound ridiculous, but one man's absurdity is another man's common
sense. That's why these things are regulated.
You ARE ridiculous. In politics "common sense" means absolutely
nothing! And Regulation is all about one set of people telling another
set what to do. America is not founded on monarchy or even communism
as much as js and others (including Obama) may wish it were so.
The problem is that any attempts at sensible regulation are met with HOWLS
of protest from the NRA, along with their mass emails of faux "statistics"
from gun bans around the world. Even worse, a sizeable number of Americans
actually vote for their leaders based on this single issue.
You "gun-grabbers" are the ones with the faux statistics. Faculty have
been fired and prized revoked because of your "true" statistics. I'll
bet on the NRA side over the Brady Bunch lies in a statistics "fair
fight" any day! And just who in hell do you think you are that you
can tell other Americans that they can't vote "single issue" if they
so choose. Just where do you get so arrogant that you are ready to
tell NRA members they have to vote for people that support "gun
control" or Hillary supporters that they have to vote for a man
because single issue voting isn't approved by you? Christ, you are a
poor excuse for an educated person!
Are some regulations ridiculous? Absolutely. Does banning the sale of any
gone do anything but make it easier for criminals to get? The evidence says
no. Does any of this negate your RIGHT to bear arms? No.
Is banning the sale of objects covered under the Bill of Rights
constitute an "infringement"? Obviously to you there is NOTHING the
government could do that you'd consider an "infringement"! Please turn
in your Libertarian membership card now!
This is no different from the rest of the Bill of Rights. The 2nd amendment
is no more or less "special" than any other. People need to get their heads
out of their asses and get some perspective.
The Hell is is not "more special"! It is the ONE right that protects
all others. That's whay it's called the "palladium of Liberty"
You gun-grabbers are SO transparent. All you want to do is have you
and yours be dictators. You LOVE the idea of old USSR where crime was
non-existent along with rights. Of course that didn't bother to count
all the MILLIONS of people murdered by their own government. So if
you want genocide, then keep on working for it. "gun control" meant
that Pol Pot didn't even need to waste valuable ammo in the killing
fields. A mere rifle *** to the head of an "intellectual" did the
job! Let's hear it for "gun control"
Otherwise, they'll get the idiot they deserve, instead of the one they
need...
You said it kid! That's the problem with the rabble in the street.
They are all so uneducated and low that if you give them freedom they
all get drunk and raise hell and pretty soon the whole country
collapses under the decay of giving people a chance to choose. Better
to have a king with the training and wisdom to do their thinking for
them! It's a tried and true system tested over and over through the
ages of history! I think you've convinced me. Let's make GEORGE BUSH
DICTATOR FOR LIFE!!!!
So....aahhh....what kind of.... aahhh...strings do you guys use.... hehe..
Um. I like Addarios...
Sorry, I can't say any more because Brian is "regulating" my "free
speech" here...
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