Re: Are there any non-smokers here in favor of allowing smoking in bars and restaurants?

"Jim Carr" <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:zUk9j.23812$Wt7.10374@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Nick Cassimatis wrote:

So you're going to deny that I get a scratch throat, burning eyes, sinus
congestion, and, after extended exposure, a cough and headache, from
being exposed to tobacco smoke? That it could possibly be someone's
cologne or perfume, every single time I'm exposed to the smoke? That
those symptoms aren't indicitative of a negative effect (whatever the
duration) on my health? Healthy people have those symptoms all of the
time, right?


Actually, healthy people *do* get those symptoms from a variety of sources
like, for instance, trees. The push to ban smoking in bars doesn't deal
with allergic reactions (or stinky clothes, Joe). You could make the same
argument for banning the wearing of perfume in public or making laws that
require products with fragrances to be sealed in airtight containers (I
can't walk down the detergent aisle it bothers me so much).

We're talking about death and cancer rates, not annoyances that would
prevent you from having any prolonged exposure in the first place.

Actually, I thought the thread was talking about health, no specific health
issues, at this point. Yes, people do get those symptoms from
trees/grass/weeds. And the Weather Channel shows forecasts for them, too.
I've never seen a bar have an index on the door showing how smoky they
expect the place to get that night. Those irritants also occur in nature,
with no human activity required to get them started. Outlawing the pine
trees in North Carolina from spreading their pollen would be an
unenforceable law.

Honestly, I bet more people are behind the anti-smoking laws for the issues
I state than for the health issues of the workers in the bars. We could do
a poll here, but that wouldn't be scientific.

And I'm completely behind a Constitutional Amendment (sorry - Federal Law.
Constitutional Amendments limit the government, not the people...) that bans
the application of perfume (or cologne) while on an airplane. Anyone who
does that should be taken to Guantanamo Bay, handed over to Blackwater, or
just thrown off the plane (while in flight). Lady, he's not waiting at the
gate - he can't any more. So you have plenty of time to get all made up for
him in the terminal. And that stuff smells horrible (as the child in the
row in front of you loudly pointed out to his mom), anyway.

--
Nick Cassimatis


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