Re: Educate Me - What Key is This?

Derek Tearne wrote:
Jim Carr <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Most importantly even if you have standard notation, you've probably got
a recording anyway.

Huh?

In most situations where standard notation would be used you probably
*don't* have a recording, that's the entire point.


You front up to the orchestra rehearsal "Here is the new commission by
[famous composer] that we're going to debut at the Albert Hall next
week".

Yes, Derek, the tab vs. notation debate is a hot button among classically trained musicians playing commissioned pieces.

Geez, what's wrong with you? I REPEATEDLY said that it's not a replacement for or superior to standard notation, yet you feel the need to point out to me that an orchestra playing a new commission won't be using tab?

Are you yanking my chain? I mean, just the other day you pointed out to me <gasp> that sometimes it's hard to hear on stage, and if you need to manually adjust your pitch, it will be difficult. I'm not sure if you're messing with me or think I'm some teenager who has never played a gig before.

People keep acting like I'm advocating tab as the best thing since the enclosed tuner. What I am responding to are all the people who dismiss tab out of hand without really understanding its uses and flaws.

You don't always need the recording since some tab has rhythm information. Even when the tab doesn't have it, in *most* cases Joe Musician getting ready for a gig/audition is probably going to be listening to the recording anyway, so who cares?

If we're discussing tab vs. notation, let's remember that tab essentially doesn't exist until there's a recording. If there's no recording, there's no tab. Therefore, there's no debate between tab and standard notation. That makes your jingle example rather silly in light of the fact that I keep saying that it's not a replacement for or superior to standard notation.
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