Re: Dealing with back problems


"Jim Carr" <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"ptooner" <nobody@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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What a fascinating viewpoint! I'd love to know where you got that
information. I know, for instance, that 13% of Americans fall below the
poverty line, but of those below the poverty line 46% own their own homes
and it averages 3 bedroom.

You "know" this? Sure ya do! While I hold the specifics of your numbers in
dispute (especially the three bedroom part),

Well, the source was US Census office. I came across that while trying to
figure out where you got your numbers.

one of the reasons for seeing
home ownership among those below the poverty line is that a high
percentage of the elderly in that income bracket own their owns, many
without a mortgage.

Should that change the definition of poverty? Sure, but the dispute is how
much so. Presumably if you've paid off your mortgage and now have a low
income, chances are your home is older and therefore in need of more
repairs. It's value will probably be higher and thus higher property
taxes. Conceivably you could rent out your place and live elsewhere
cheaper, so that is a potential source of income, though minimal. If you
have a mortgage, that's not really an option.

For an interesting and detailed perspective on this issue, check out
http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/papers/!homeown.pdf. Perhaps then you won't be
so quick to scoff at the idea of being below the poverty level yet owning
a home.

Well, I wasn't "scoffing" at anything, I was just trying to find out where
you got the "millions of young children who will never see a doc" thing
which you seem to have left out of this response.

Gerry



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