Re: Polytone Mini Brute III

Todd,

"Guaranteed not to be DOA" is a standard eBay clause, has been for years. I
certainly didn't invent it, but I put it in all my used gear auctions.

This amp is a used item, out of warranty. Hell, depending on the week,
Polytone may or may not even be in business. You know as well as I do that
any electrical component (of which there are hundreds in any amp) could fail
at any moment, making these transactions risky to begin with.

If it's broken when you get it, I'll take it back. If it works, congrats on
your new amp.

And as I said in the thread, this helps to weed out those who: Don't like
the sound/style/color, take it to a gig (that I have no control over) and
damage it, Get caught by their wife buying "toys", etc.

Not my problem. If you want returns and warranties, buy it new from
Musicians Friend. I'm not dealing with that crap on a used amp, period.

Having said all that, I also try to go "over the top" in my description so
people know EXACTLY what they are buying, simply because they can't return
it.

And I think my feedback speaks for itself.

PS: I still don't understand the hullabaloo. If you don't like my terms; if
you don't like my answer to your question, then DON'T BID ON MY AUCTION. The
free market at its best.



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"Todd H." <bmiawmb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:84zmskvh7t.fsf@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> "John Shaughnessy" <johngoogleplexNOSPAM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> > Who got an FU - me or him?
> >
> > I get asked a similar question on virtualy every auction I run, and I
answer
> > it in a simillr fashion. Never had anyone throw a hissy fit until now.
Still
> > trying to figure out why.
> >
> > I posted it so I don't have to answer 5 more like it before the aution
is
> > over. Trust me, if I was TRYING to be mean and "egotistical", you would
> > know.
> >
> > And if you think I'm bad, you might want to wander into a few other
auctions
> > and see what their Terms are...
>
> Here's the exchange quoted from the public auction
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7337533579&category=10171&ssPageName=WDVW&rd=1
>
> Q: if you guarantee it not to be DOA then how can you ban a return?
> A: No offence, but it's an easy concept to grasp: I'm
> saying that I guarantee it will be working when it
> arrives. However, I'm NOT going to accept a return because you
> don't like the way it sounds, you don't like the way it looks,
> you wanted a different model, it blows up on your gig 3 weeks
> later, etc. "DOA" is a pretty standard eBay Term of Sale on
> used gear. - don't take my word for it, check out some other
auctions.
>
> I dunno John, I think the guy (and others who evidently ask you
> similar questions on every auction--one would think a sharp seller
> might take the club and clarify the terms to eliminate the question?)
> asked a resonable question and your answer didn't really make sense.
> Also the guy's question didn't indicate a lack of understanding of the
> term "dead on arrival" either near as I can tell. Your terms of your
> sale doesn't really grok logically.
>
> To reasonable folks "return" means generically "to return an item for
> some reason." This includes the possibility of returning an item
> because the fugger didn't work when it arrived (i.e. was "DOA").
>
> Specifically, if I buy something of yours and it arrives and it does
> not work (keep in mind that just cus it works before you pack it
> doesn't mean it'll work when it arrives somewhere across the country),
> in order to make good on your "guarantee" against DOA, how exactly do
> you plan to deliver on your guarantee if you don't allow the
> possibility of a buyer returning a DOA item back to you?
>
> I think this is the logical problem several of your buyers seem to be
> pointing out when they ask you this question. It's not the buyers
> that are broken, it's your terms of sale.
>
> Best Regards,
> --
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