Re: RUSH NAILS IT AGAIN!

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Oh, the kid with cancer thing. We should insure everyone in the country
because a tiny percentage of children get sick with cancer?

http://tinyurl.com/29mztor

Maybe the states can help with what charity doesn't cover. Keep
donating. It's the best thing I can say about you.

Jim

Childhood cancer has better survival rates than it did a year ago,
and they'll be better next year. I don't know what
anybody else can expect.

Devin only seems to want to go with the most gruesome examples....

--
Les Cargill


But what about the little children?

God bless them all Tiny Tim.

I love it.

Dickens wrote fiction, but it
was firmly based on the
reality of growing up as one
of the working poor before
there was effective government
intervention on behalf of the
health and welfare of indigent
children. Private charity
couldn't even begin to handle
that problem back then and it
can't now. Fortunately, our
Constitution includes providing
for "the general Welfare" as a
guiding priority alongside such
Wibbertarian favorites as "the
common defence" and "domestic
Tranquility," so we decide, via
our government of, by, and for
the people, not to consign poor
children to a Dickensian hell as
per their parents' shortcomings
in abilities, judgment, and/or
sheer luck.


"....welfare of the Union."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Welfare_clause

Thomas Jefferson explained the latter general welfare clause for the United
States: "[T]he laying of taxes is the power, and the general welfare the
purpose for which the power is to be exercised. They [Congress] are not to
lay taxes ad libitum for any purpose they please; but only to pay the debts
or provide for the welfare of the Union. In like manner, they are not to do
anything they please to provide for the general welfare, but only to lay
taxes for that purpose."[7]

James Madison advocated for the ratification of the Constitution in The
Federalist and at the Virginia ratifying convention upon a narrow
construction of the clause, asserting that spending must be at least
tangentially tied to one of the other specifically enumerated powers, such
as regulating interstate or foreign commerce, or providing for the military,
as the General Welfare Clause is not a specific grant of power, but a
statement of purpose qualifying the power to tax.

There is no operational
difference between "the
general welfare" as
written in the Preamble
and "the welfare of the
Union." The Union
benefits mightily when
poor children grow up to
be healthy, productive,
and self-supporting
adults -- and therefore
Congress can rightfully
legislate (and thereby
impose taxes) to achieve
that goal. What Madison
might have told a state
legislature to get the
original document ratified
is irrelevant, especially
considering the various
other sops thrown to the
states with slavery-based
economies and later nuked
via amendment or judicial
interpretation -- what is
ultimately relevant is
constitutionality as
defined and frequently
revisited by the SCOTUS.
.

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