Re: Calif to vote on legalizing pot for everyone in Nov.

"DGDevin" <DGDevin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Bruce Morgen" <editor@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I've heard you cannot be
punished for stealing to
feed yourself or your
family in Germany -- they
make a distinction between
stealing for survival and
stealing out of greed.


That's rather enlightened.


...yet somehow their society
has not collapsed into an
ongoing paroxysm of bread
stealing.

Well, you gotta watch that enlightened stuff. I've seen some recent news
articles from the UK about how whole families of illegal immigrants from
eastern Europe will take over a house (sometimes empty, sometimes occupied),
or camp in someone's back yard, and when the owners call the cops they're
informed it's a civil matter and they'll have to hire a lawyer and sue the
squatters, the cops can't do a thing. It can take months to get the
squatters to leave. There was a recent case where a guy took his dog for a
walk and came back to find the locks changed and a Lithuanian family in his
house and the cops wouldn't lift a finger because the Lithuanian family said
they'd rented the place from somebody or other--the cops said take them to
court. Happily in that case the squatters got nervous and fled, but the
guy's house was trashed with appliances and wiring torn out and his personal
possessions in the trash.

Fortunately, Stateside
trespassing is still
trespassing and a criminal
offense rather than a civil
matter -- if you claim
you've rented a place,
you've got to show the cops
a lease signed by the legal
owner of the property or
you'll be arrested.

So there need to be reasonable limits, and somebody who steals food
because it's easier than working should not get a pass.

Someone like that does *not*
get a pass in Germany -- but
someone who's starving does.
In such cases, laziness is
equivalent to greed in the
eyes of the law.
.

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