Re: Source for Fender tube shields?
- From: Bruce Morgen <editor@xxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 14:53:51 -0500
JP <JP@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:52:54 -0500, Bruce Morgen <editor@xxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Lord Valve <detritus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Aluminum is usually not used for shielding..steel is...or copper...
Osama bin Morgen issued the following fatwah:
Lord Valve <detritus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Bruce Morgen wrote:They're exactly the same as
Jim <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Does anybody have a good source for the standard 9 pin Fender tube<http://www.reverendguitars.com/reverend/amp_parts.html>
shields, as used in silver face 70's amps? Used is fine.
Hard to beat four for $1.50 + postage.
Yeah, those'll be *real* good. ROFLMBFAO!
in the Reverend amp you
reviewed positively a
couple year back, so
kwitcherbitchin' -- a tube
shield is a tube shield
unless you're shitfaced on
"vintage" kool-aid, it's
not like some overpriced
thirty year old NOS relic
is going to work any
better than what Reverend
has.
Chinese tube shields are crappola.
They squish if you look at 'em cross-eyed. They're damn
near as thin as aluminum foil. There *are* some excellent
currently-made ones, from Belton (Korea). Tough as a boot,
look great. Still aluminum, though...and steel is better
shielding in certain situations. But *you* knew *that* - right?
Bullshit. Tube shields don't
do much of anything considering
all the noise in a typical
signal chain -- the difference
between steel and aluminum in a
guitar amp is insignificant
because even the difference
between shield and no-shield is
barely noticable. As usual,
you're trumpeting techno-trivia
just to keep your ego-blimp
inflated rather than to be
helpful.
Installed in an actual amp, it
makes no difference whatsoever
if a tube shield can be easily
"squished" -- there's no
pressure in that direction
unless you're a butterfingered
tech who drops one on the
floor and steps on it. As
long as there's enough spring
tension to keep the tube in
its socket, the shield is
doing its job -- if Leo Fender
cared about tiny reductions in
noise he wouldn't have designed
guitars with single-coil
pickups and probably used tube
shields because they worked
better to hold the tubes in
place than those flimsy bent
wire retainers.
BTW - I don't sell NOS tube shields.
I know, you sell slightly more
durable Asian stuff at a fat
markup by convincing people
the extra $$ is worth it.
Indeed it was.
Thanks for the gratuitous
hate speech, it's good to
know that utter political
Armageddon hasn't
diminished your zeal for
incoherently demonizing
all who disagree with you
and dare to say so!
Nice of you to notice.
[sore loser crapola snipped]
Aluminum foil and aluminized
polyester film are commonly
used as shielding materials,
e.g. as cable shields --
check the Belden and Alpha
catalogs for many examples.
The film is particularly
popular because is can be
used in cable without
resorting to multi-strand
fine wire braiding and
performs well in many
applications.
.
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