Re: gave it to 'em

DGDevin wrote:

White Spirit wrote:

And your defence for this claim amounts to..?

Why are you asking me, you're the one claiming I'm displaying ignorance both in a particular case and in general. If you can't explain what you meant what defense do I need?

What a surprise - I'm being accused of a thought crime.

You consistently post news stories which depict non-white residents of Britain in a negative light, while ignoring news stories that show white residents engaging in the same actions.

That's not true; I've mentioned the actions of white residents also.

What, whites don't commit violent crimes in Britain, don't beat their wives, aren't on the dole? Since you confine your disapproval of such actions to those who don't share your racial and ethnic origins, what logical conclusion would you expect an observer to come to? As the lawyers say, res ipsa loquitar.

To be fair, when 9% of the population of London commit 45% of knife and gun crimes and 79% of all violent crimes, I'd say there's a problem.

Plenty of disparaging terms arose from neutral meanings. The word
'***', for example, arose from the Latin word for 'black'...

Another logic breakdown.

For you, perhaps, given that you seem incapable of grasping logic.

"Limey" didn't start off neutral and become an insult. It had its origins in the lime juice British sailors were given to fend off scurvy and over time it came to mean any Englishman rather than just an English sailor. At no point did it seem to be considered a derogatory term, at least not in any etymology source I've seen.

I've seen it being used as an insult countless times.

So while your attempt at misdirection

PKB.

in demonstrating that slang terms referring to people sometimes gain (or for that matter lose) a derogatory connotation is correct, it does not apply to the word I used.

I beg to differ.

Which leads us back to why you are offended/pretending to be offended by a term which has never been considered derisive?

I'm not offended, Dougie; I just consider the usage distasteful. As I said, the only person you have denigrated is yourself.

There's a TV show here called Extreme Makeover Home Edition, one of the regular characters is a Brit (is it okay to say Brit or will you pretend that is an insulting term too?).

Would you refer to a Japanese person as a 'Jap'? In any event, it doesn't really matter to me - I consider myself English rather than British.

On tonight's episode he referred to himself as a "Limey." On national television, imagine that, I wonder how it got past the censors? Yeah WS, your outrage is as phony as a three-dollar bill. The only thing you're mad about here is losing the argument, and that's just what you did.

It hardly proves your point, Dougie - have you heard what black people call themselves these days? You're the one who is worked up, and now you've got yourself convinced that you've won the argument. You remind me of the gawky kid at school who sits in the corner, talking to himself and occasionally turning around to look at other people, convinced that he's letting them know that he knows best. Abusenet ;)
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