Re: Al's Gourd: desafinado!

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Poor O'Willy bin Whinin' - too lazy, to cheap, and too stupid
to go see Gore's film and make his *own* assessment of it.

Nice piece of science fiction.

<snip of BS>

So you went and saw the movie yourself, Rich?


this country just might start making progress on alternative
energies,

Name 'em.

Wind

Will never move a car, truck, or train.

Well ***! Of course not! But wind *will* move AC generators and charge
fucking batteries!

You hook up a windmill and generator to your AC service
and you use LESS AC from the utility company! Then you charge your
electric
car by plugging it into your electric service
outlet. It's not fucking rocket science! Sheeks!

Where's the electric windmill store?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=windmills



Not one to be found that I can put in my backyard and power my 400-PS.



case closed.





Everyone is just standing in line looking to get their hands on one.

You can thank the poor leadership for that.
Did you see Ken Burns' "The War"?
Did you notice the *whole* country mobilized for the war effort -
scrap metal drives, food and fuel rationing, volunteer efforts of all sorts.
Now, imagine if we had the kind of leadership that inspired that
kind of action. BTW, it's sort of their job - to motivate people
for a unified effort and to use power to get business involved in
the process too. Humankind buggered up the planet. Humankind
can unbugger it. For example, I heard about some lake near Jersey
that so fucking dead and polluted, it actually caught fire. Well, since
then the lake has been cleaned up and aquatic life is flourishing in
it again. IOW, the damage can be undone. The excessive levels
of pollution and carbon oxides can be reduced, but it needs to be
a unified effort from the entire industrial world. But certainly there
is nothing wrong with the USA leading the effort. It already plays
rent-a-cop bully to the rest of the world.

Where's YOURS????????

No tax break incentive yet, but I've cut down on energy consumption,
recycle and reuse so energy won't be needed to process or reprocess
or replace what was thrown away. ***, we should have a DON'T DRIVE
DAY in the entire country. Imagine the what that would do and the statement
it would make and the energy saved. Well, other than cops, emergency
vehicles and pizza delivery vehicles.



Better yet Ed, let's pull the plug on the whole nation for a day.

Yeah, no juice. No computer, no TV, no air conditioning, no energy use of any kind.

Yes, let's bring the nation to a screeching halt, while the rest of the world continues.

Like that's going to make a freaking dent in the global warming energy wasting polluting crisis.

Fantasy land again. Ain't it.



You have one in your yard?????

Plannin' on it? But I'd be you'd refuse even if someone
gave you one.


Post the link for the electric windmill store.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=windmills



Stop with the worthless link ***.

WHERE'S THE FREAKING ELECTRIC WINDMILL STORE!!!!!!!!!

WHERE'S THE FREAKING ELECTRIC PRODUCING WINDMILLS YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT so John Doe CAN PURCHASE
ONE RIGHT NOW, TODAY!!!!!!!!!!







solar voltaics

Will never move a car, truck, or train.

But hydrogen will.

And, will your windmill produce it for ya too?????

That's the idea - use the electricity to split water
into hydrogen and oxygen, sell the oxygen to welders
or divers and use hydrogen to power the car, by storing
it in cannisters filled with a nickel alloy that absorbs
hydrogen so it won't have to pressurized. Apply
a little heat and the alloy releases the hydrogen.
Or just get a hybrid car which once the price of R&D
is paid for, then the price can come down and with
more tax breaks and inspiration from leadership to
have a demand, perhaps most people would get one.
However, there is one problem: inbred hick morons
and obstinate naysayers like you who don't give a ***
about the common good even though it would affect
your own personal world of selfishness in a positive way too.



And Ed, would you explain exactly how this splitting of the hydrogen and oxygen is performed?

Give us the details.




Using hemp instead of trees for paper

Save trees, wipe your ass with a spotted owl.

You know, I gave you more credit than you deserve.
You are just another credulous bum*** Rash Limp*** ditto-shithead.
Learn
to think for yourself before parroting that asswhore's banal bull***.
Sheeks!



nuclear fusion


Very dangerous toxic waste.

Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! Wrong answer!
You're thinking of nuclear *fission*.

That's here.

Fusion ain't.

Keep dreaming.

It needs to be further researched and minds need to be shaped
to go in that direction.


Gee Ed, it's been a LONG time since GE had their demo in the '60s world fair.

What happened since?

Did they find something out about this ***, or what?????

You tell me.







funding for more research of other possible energy sources.

There are NO others!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You don't know that. Who do you think you are? God?
Did you know that some by-products which were at first
considered to be disposable waste later became energy sources?



Less waste, fraud and abuse.

That's not an alternative energy source.

Of course, but it's part of the bleedin' solution. Sheeks!



Require auto makers to make their vehicles will better MPG -
it can be done. It has been done.

There is a LIMIT to just how much energy you can harvest from a single
drop of gas to move a given
weight.

It's been done in Japan and Germany. Oh, that's right. We don't get news
from around the world
like Euopeans do.

Yeah, POST THE LINKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SHOW us what Japan and Germany has.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=hybrid+cars+of+japan&spell=1

http://blog.koehntopp.de/archives/1684-Volkswagen-Germany,-Volkswagen-USA-and-Toyota-Hybrids.html



Why store the free electrons at all. Why not use 'em right away right out of the generator to the
electric motor/s that turn the wheels.

You know. The same way diesel electric's move the cars on rails.

Look at all that weight and friction from the standard automatic transmission and differential that
can be eliminated.

Just go electron direct from generator to electric motor.

Why not?

You tell me.




When we make cars out of paper, you will have your wish.

Tanks are being made of polymers - plastics!


Tin cans and plastic boxes with wheels are here already.

Notice how easy the occupants get KILLED in auto accidents with steel
boxes and trees.

Drive an energy saving DEATH TRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SCREW YOU Ed.

And screw stronger plastics like kevlar and twaron?


Do you know where kevlar was first used?





However, you waste more energy, putting more energy into a drop of gas.
As we found out in the
'70s.

Wrong approach. Cars need to be more efficient and they can be!

Ed, wake up. There is a limit one eventually arrives at in the efficiency
game.

As all roads have an end, so does the internal combustion efficiency come
to an end.

That horse has been dead for years.

Yet, you persist in dancing around it.

My 62 Vette got the exact same MPG as the 2003 Vette with more HP.

We are spinning are efficiency wheels, and going no where.

WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!

BTW, if you had not noticed, cars are NOT the major petro fuel polluter.

Not *the* major polluter, but certainly *a* MAJOR polluter.


Not close Ed.

Look at the railroads, and compare their total oil consumption to autos.



Fuck Rich! What the fucking hell is your ridiculous motivation for
trying to discredit Al Gore's film and the thousands of peer-reviewed
scientists who contributed to the information presented in it?


Because Al Gore and the rest are freaking WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Get it!!!!!!!!!

All the planets are warming up, and WE ain't doing it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Get it!!!!!!!!!


Stop drinking the cool aid.





Do you prefer to be just a careless lazy mindless droll pig ***?

Don't you give a damn about the common good?

Are you just some useful stooge of Big Oil and/or a stockholder
of Big Oil?

There has to be some simple explanation for your rabid zealotry in
trying to discredit something that could improve the quality of life
for everyone on the whole fucking planet, the environment and the
economy. Sheeks, I'm beginning to you secretly like turds as long
as they are UNPOLISHED.


Ed, you can take all this freaking BS from you hero and throw it in the trash.

Likewise, all the bashing of Bush and Big Oil, and equally throw it in the trash.

It ain't going to change the way mother nature's energy works.

There is no free ride in the energy game.




What's so fucking wrong with trying to make Earth a better place?


Better than what?

You think you can do a better job than mother nature?

Oh, you must be talking about that basic thing animals know.

Like, don't *** where you eat?

But it's bio degradable.

It's nice the phosphates used in soap is no longer with us.

Now, if we could cut back on the plastic and phantom load, that would be a good thing.

BUT,.... saying the human condition is causing global warming is the greatest junk science hoax
pulled by any political camp to date.

In that little tiny window of existence man has been here, true knowledge of the past can never be
known in the absolutes spoken by the popular global warming witch hunt mob.

Man is a piss ant on this planet, and to think he can change the weather patterns set in motion by
such greater forces of many variables, is the height of arrogance and idiocy.



What's so wrong with trying to use cleaner, more efficient renewable
forms of energy? What's wrong with not destroying the fucking planet


Earth to Ed.

Hello.

Man can not destroy the earth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Remember these two words.

Arrogance and Idiocy.





by chopping off the tops of mountains and polluting the valleys and the
water in the valleys and leaving the devistation without any attempt
to reforestation? What's wrong with not polluting the air with more and
more carbon oxides?


Earth to Ed.

Hello.

The USA is cleaner than it was in the '60s. Our factories, our air, our rivers, etc....




What's wrong with trying to save the oxygen
producing plankton that is being killed off from the fresh water melting
of the poles?



Earth to Ed.

Hello.

This has been going on since mother nature first created water the freeze and melt.

It's a normal function of this planet. Get used to this happening.



What's wrong with conservation of the natural resources?


Nothing.


What's wrong with not clear-cutting old growth forests?


Nothing.



What's wrong with not polluting the air and water on Earth?


Nothing.


What's wrong with trying to clean up the stinkin' pollution?


We already have been doing that.




What's wrong with trying to improve the quality of life for everyone?


Nothing, as long as it REALLY an improvement with out a cost attached.




Oh, I forgot, you prefer warmongering and prefer your tax
money going toward making death machines to wipe out
*all* Muslims since they are *all* out to get you. Yep,
the whole world revolves around you, Rich.


Stop being an ass Ed.

Go read the Koran and know the teachings it contains.

Hang on every word!!!!!!!!!



Well, I have
a request of you, my new god. Get the fucking lead out
of your head!


I used lead free gas in my Vette.

But you can do a deep knee bend over that lead free solder you use over there.

You do use it Ed.

Are, are you one of those Al Gore types.




Regards,

Rich Koerner,
Time Electronics.
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One is a Gynecologist...

That should count for something.
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