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Rich Koerner wrote:

OK, this is for any future and/or amp techs here in AGA.

Throw out any *how to* guitar amp anything books printed to create amp experts without even the
basics of vacuum tube theory included.

I bought the books only after running up (60's-70's) phone bills contacting the companies,
and by THEN having the know how, was trusted to fix rock icon amps. Today, that cannot
happen, because know-how is too open...and too east to bullshit via MoJo branded boxes.

Folks today do not have our options we had back in the oldfart(days)(.com)

Bite the freaking bullet, and make the decision to study the real deal world of *AUDIO*, in vacuum
tube electronics.

I later realized, one had to be alike the inside mind of those building the RnR amps, who were
AUDIO TECHs 1st..or better. Few of the Icon designers were musicians..if any of them..

FORGET, you are a musician.

Well, the old fart icons had good musicians around them to bounce off of...but good point.

Throw that, out the freaking window.

...open the window 1st...

Start with an empty glass.

...no..start with it 1/2 fill. ...or 1/2 empty...

Before buying any books, check some of these web sites. Some of them will give suggestions along
the way for some interesting books to pickup and read.

http://www.john-a-harper.com/tubes201/

http://frank.pocnet.net/other/nobr.html

http://www.kbapps.com/tubespecs.html

http://star.xq23.com/z/x_Electrical_Electronic_Engineering.html

http://www.mcsquared.com/amazon.htm

http://www.vacuumtube.com/books&.htm##Vacuum%20Tube%20Theory

http://www.montagar.com/~patj/goodbooks.htm

This should get you started finding some books.

....ditto...

Invest in yourself. Make the commitment to see it through. Learn what makes those free electrons
shake and dance inside that bottle. Then, "you",... make that happen in a test bed.

If something really interest ya, you learn all about it..ALL about it..

Why would I be doing this?

What data could I be looking for?

For what reasons?

Ya gotta love it and NEED to search out the reality/truth of what you long for...

Could it be that the basis behind what I talk about here in AGA has been long ago verified on my
bench in this manner? You can bet on it.

My bench has too many stains from today's crap to even mention in respectable company..

The 400-PS is a great test bed with big iron and 700 volts sitting there. 800 volt rated EL-34's
should have no problem in that amp. For data gathering on the EL-34 at 700 volts DC run from class
A to AB2, it's a good test bed with plenty of headroom to boot.

I have 4 sets of OLD SVT tranz that give me all the heater or B+ I need.

Got one set for sale. PT/OT/HT. Anyone want them?

Read the right books on vacuum tubes, learn from them, perform the testing, and *YOU* become expert.

Go for it.

Invest in yourself.

In today's day and age, one has no excuse NOT to. IF folks care so much about it,
and they don't yearn to learn, they will be sold to by those who have and want yer $$.




JJTj













I left Oklahoma drivin' in a Pontiac
Just about to lose my mind
I was goin' on to Arizona, maybe on to California
Where all the people live so fine
My baby said I was crazy, my momma called me lazy
I was goin' to show 'em all this time
'Cause you know I ain't no fool an' I don't need no more schoolin'
I was born to just walk the line

Livin' on Tulsa time
Livin' on Tulsa time
Well you know I've been through it
When I set my watch back to it
Livin' on Tulsa time

Well there I was in Hollywood wishin' I was doin' good
Talkin' on the telephone line
But they don't need me in the movies and nobody sings my songs
Guess I'm just wastin' time
Well then I got to thinkin',and then I got to drinking..
And I really had a flash this time
I had no business leavin' and nobody would be grievin'
If I went on back to Tulsa time

Livin' on Tulsa time
Livin' on Tulsa time
Gonna set my watch back to it
Cause you know I've been through it
Livin' on Tulsa time
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