Re: And still the best :-)



On Jun 7, 4:22?pm, Texas Goodolboy <texasgoodol...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jun 7, 2:50 pm, "Fit E. Cal" <y...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:





On Jun 7, 2:26?pm, Texas Goodolboy <texasgoodol...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Jun 7, 1:52 pm, eric <e...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

RichL wrote:
"Fit E. Cal" <y...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Marc -- I was curious, have been thinking of getting one of these. Do you
have any idea what the plate voltage is in this thing? i.e., is the "tube"
acting as a glorified light bulb?

It's a starved plate design. The tube only gets 13 volts, or something
like that.

eric

In traditional designs most of the time the voltage on the plates of a
12ax7 is at least 150 volts, and often 300 volts or higher. Generally,
higher voltages, within the tube's operating range, mean higher
dynamic range. Most of the cheap stuff marketed tends to just have a
tube or two in one stage of a design that is mostly cheaply opamp
circuitry, and typically run at around 50 plate volts, aka a "starved
plate". This stage offers no dynamics, no headroom, no bandwidth.
Because these boxes are generally marketed at musicians, who associate
tubes with distortion ala guitar amps, they don't understand that
tubes (run at low plate voltages) can be as clean and pristine as
transistors or opamps, so they think this is what high end tube gear
is supposed to be and are happy.

Take a look at the industry and professional endorsements. Now dismiss
them all, because you know better. :-) mvm- Hide quoted text -

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"Industry and professional endorsements" can only take you so far.
Ultimately, whatever works best for your personal tonal objectives is
the way you need to go. e.g. - Robert Fripp's favorite fuzz box won't
carry much weight with George Benson. More power to you if the
Tonebone gives you the tones you're looking for with your particular
rig.

Ever try a Matchless Hotbox? If you get a chance, you ought to
compare one side by side with the Tonebone. The Tonebone is a low
voltage tube (starved plate) pedal design, while the Hotbox is a high
voltage tube pedal design - not unlike the actual preamp circuit of a
Matchless amp.

You might also try rigging your guitar up to a small transistor radio
and see what you come up with


Have you tried either of what you're suggesting someone else try?

.



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