Re: Getting Warmth From My Twin Reverb...
Ether wrote:
fishhead wrote:
Ether wrote:
fishhead wrote:
Ether wrote:
fishhead wrote:
Dave Curtis wrote:
On 12 Dec 2005 23:02:35 -0800, Ether typed:
PMG wrote:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:25:40 -0500, Dan <blues_monster9@xxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Love my TRRI. But man, it's way too clean, bright and almost brittle
sounding. This thing has more headroom than Linda Lovelace (sorry, I
couldn't think of anything else). <snip>
Fender biases their amps so cold that you could sink a cruise ship
with one. <snip>
I'm sorry...did I stumble into a thread entitled "Incredibly bad
metaphors"?
--E
I dunno, but I thought Pete's was slicker than owl ***.
Dave, yours was technically a simile,
Nope--it's a metaphor, too! (Implied comparison, lack of "like" or
"as".) Close one, though.
but we can travel down that
road another time. :-)
Merciful of you!
..and metaphorical (M)...
But no, a comparison is a simile. What you posted is a simile.
Sorry to throw a wet blanket on your post (M)...
Sorry to throw a wet blanket on your education, but...
A simile *requires* the use of "like" or "as".
No, it does not.
Sure it does. Take a look at every reference I gave you in my previous
post:
Sorry to throw a wet blanket on your education, but...
A simile *requires* the use of "like" or "as".
To wit: "Simile is the comparison of two unlike things using like or
as."
[http://www.tnellen.com/cybereng/lit_terms/simile.html]
"Simile - A comparison for the purpose of explanation, allusion or
decoration which uses 'like' or 'as'.
Metaphor - A comparison implied or stated between two usually
unconnected objects."
[http://www2.eng.cam.ac.uk/~tpl/workshops/metaphor.html]
"Metaphor: figure of speech that implies comparison between two unlike
entities, as distinguished from simile, an explicit comparison
signalled by the words 'like' or 'as.'"
[http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9052289]
So, you see, fishhead, by making a "more...than" type of comparison,
you are implying a similarity, but you are not explicitly stating it.
Therefore, such a comparison is METAPHOR.
A simple way to understand it is, a metaphor is an equation,
a simile is an approximation or comparison.
A more correct way of stating is (as I quoted from our friends at
Cambridge University above), "Simile - A comparison for the purpose of
explanation, allusion or decoration which uses 'like' or 'as'."
A simile does not *require* "like" of "as".
Sure it does. And I just gave your four references confirming that.
(Do you have any authoritative references?)
It may be "signalled" by those words in many contexts, but
"like" and "as" are not required.
Yes, they *are* required. (See references above. Just because you
chose to excise them doesn't mean they'll go away!)
A comparison, "slicker THAN owl ***"...is a comparison.
You're right: it is a comparison. And a metaphor as well. ("Pete's
words were like slick owl ***" would be a simile.)
Reword it...in this case that is acceptable...
"...as slick as owl ***" = simile.
Precisely. Signalled by the use of "as," just as I said before.
Thanks for the confirmation!
> As opposed to...
"Your post was the slick owl ***." = metaphor.
Precisely. The words "like" and "as" are nowhere to be found.
..Not to rain on your parade (M), but you are wrong.
And yet you yourself have proven me right! (And what's with the "(M)"?
Nervous tic?)
(M) = metaphor....do try and keep up.
We could conjure up Andre Jute if you want. ;-)
No need to get an idiot involved! We've got plenty right here in AGA.
At least you are demonstrating intellectual curiosity in your argument,
and that's to be commended. (But any argument will fail without
authoritative proof--or any reference at all.)
"Slicker THAN owl ***" is not a metaphor, it's a simile.
Like it or not, that's the way it is. Comparison = simile.
Looks like I've led a donkey to water, but he refuses to drink. (M)
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