Re: Televangelist Robertson warns town of God's wrath


tubeguru wrote:
> Ether wrote:
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> >tubeguru wrote:
> >
> >>Ether wrote:
> >>
> >>>tubeguru wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Ether wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>tubeguru wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Ether wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>tubeguru wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>The Repair Guy wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>tubeguru <tubeguru@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Phil Wilson wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Post a link to any evolutionists who say that the planet
> >>>>>>>>>>>is not old enough. Never heard that one before.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>I've heard it before. From creationists.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>It was told to me in a conversation I had with a geneticist
> >>>>>>>>>>who had worked on the original DNA project in the '40s.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>"The original DNA project"? What and when was that?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>He was a graduate student at the time working under Dr Francis Crick at
> >>>>>>>>Cambridge in the late 40's. You know, the guy who discovered DNA.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>What's his *name*? Identify the person.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>And what would you do with it?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>Verify your bull*** story. The fact that you give no details confirms
> >>>>>my suspicion that it is a fabricated anecdote.
> >>>>>
> >>>No answer, I see. Bull*** confirmed.
> >>>
> >>Yes, I guess it is....
> >>Dr. Arthur Chovnick, (Microbiology) his son and I have been friends for
> >>40 years. he is friends with my parents Dr. Richard H.
> >>Bloomer(Educational and Neuropsychology with certification in
> >>Neuropharmocology) and my mother Dr. Carolyn M. Bloomer (Anthropology).
> >
> >I see your father was a professor at UConn before he retired--good
> >school.
> >
> >Let me guess: You were a faculty brat who dropped out of school, did a
> >lot of drugs, and followed the Grateful Dead around, living in a filthy
> >sleeping bag. You played in bands for a while. Then, because you had no
> >education and couldn't get a job, you became an amp repairman.
> >
> >You must be a never-ending source of disappointment to your parents,
> >Michael.
> >
> >Ask your much-more-intelligent parents what *they* think about you
> >asinine rejection of evolution. (If they're still speaking to you, that
> >is.)
> >
> >BTW: I'll bet you were devastated when Phish broke up.
> >
> >>><snip>
> >>>Oddly, the laws of Physics are the same everywhere in the universe.
> >>>What would you have SETI look for? Green alien brainwaves?
> >>>
> >>Actually they're not. In the quantum universe they are different. A
> >>single quantum particle can exist in two places at once. Electrons
> >>frequently go in and out of existence.
> >
> >Like I said: "The laws of Physics are the same everywhere in the
> >universe." The laws of Quantum Mechanics are the same on Earth as they
> >are in the Perseus Cluster. Quantum Mechanics also falls under the
> >rubric of "the laws of Physics". (Just to educate you: Newtonian
> >Physics is the macro-world expression of Quantum mechanics.)
> >
> >So, once again, you have no idea what you're talking about.
> >
> >>><snip>
> >>>
> >>>>The leading cause of death is medical error, well over half a million a year....
> >>>>
> >>>HAHAHA! BULL***! Where are you getting this bogus crap? (Perhaps a
> >>>UFO told you?) Here's the CDC data for US causes of death:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/lcod.htm
> >>>
> >>>As you can see, the leading cause of death in the USA is heart disease,
> >>>followed by cancer and stroke.
> >>>
> >>http://www.garynull.com/documents/iatrogenic/deathbymedicine/deathbymedicine2.htm
> >
> >Crackpot website! Who are you going to cite next: Tom Cruise on
> >Obstetrics?
> >
> >>http://www.stats.org/record.jsp?type=news&ID=150
> >
> >This site is maintained by George Mason University and appears to be
> >legitimate. Not surprisingly, then, it CONTRADICTS your ridiculous
> >assertion. From their webpage:
> >
> >"Regular readers of VitalSTATS may remember the outcry when an
> >Institute of Medicine (IOM) report in 1999 estimated that as many as
> >98,000 Americans die each year as a result of medical errors. But now a
> >new study in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA)
> >says that there may be as few as 5,000 such deaths annually."
> >
> >Oddly, NEITHER figure is anywhere near the "half a million" deaths per
> >year that you claim.
> >
> >>Among the sources used were ststistice from the Journal of American
> >>Medicine.
> >
> >Yeah, right--for which you do not provide a link. You're full of ***.
> >
> >>In case you haven't noticed the Pharmaceutical industry finances Medical
> >>education heavily.
> >
> >In some instances, they do. Doesn't mean that all doctors are merely
> >drug salesmen.
> >
> >>If I had a broken leg I would go to a doctor, otherwise
> >>I would have some serious trepidation....
> >>
> >So...if you come down with a brain tumor, you'll just ride it out at
> >home? Man, are you paranoid! (Maybe it's the residual effects of all that
> >pot you've smoked. Or was it the LSD?) Of course, someone that stupid
> >deserves whatever fate they create for themselves.
> >
> >Are little green men stalking you as well?
> >
> >>><snip>
> >>>
> >>>HAHAHA! WHAT "intelligence"?
> >>>
> >>>Maybe you should read something other than a cereal box.
> >>>
> >>>>>--E
> >>>>>
> >>>>>P.S. I respond not so much as to convince you, but more to protect any
> >>>>>impressionable minds who might happen upon your drivel.
> >>>>>
> >>>>It wouldn't kill you to question your belief system either.
> >>>>
> >>>I do--every day. That's the difference between you and me.
> >>>
> >>>>My point is that as long as science is driven largely by consumerist goals
> >>>>
> >>>It is not, as I have indicated. (You seem to define all of science as
> >>>"Merck Incorporated".)
> >>>
> >>>>and religion seeks to control thought,
> >>>>
> >>>The worst religion indeed does. The best religion provides spritual
> >>>and philosohical comfort while allowing for new discovery.
> >>>
> >>>>the truth will remain hidden....
> >>>>
> >>>If plug-stupid, ignorant, right-wing, fundamentalists Christians and
> >>>Muslims have their way, you're absolutely right.
> >>>
> >>>>My belief system is simply to have an open mind.
> >>>>
> >>>So open, in fact, that the whole thing fell out.
> >>>
> >>>>I have nothing against either other than the above.
> >>>>
> >>>From your comments, it's obvious that you are lying--or lying to
> >>>yourself.
> >>>
> >>>>There are plenty of avenues in both science
> >>>>and religion that haven't been explored for those reasons.
> >>>>TG
> >>>>
> >>>To recap, boys and girls:
> >>>
> >>>SCIENCE is the process of discovery and proof through testing.
> >>>RELIGION (as followed by tubeguru) is the blind adherence to unproven
> >>>notions, and the unwillingness to pursue or accept the truth.
> >>>
> >>>Case closed.
> >>>
> >>> --E
> >>>
> >>If you in fact believed what you have been spewing
> >>
> >What I have been "spewing" is nothing less than the *truth*--tested and
> >proven. You, on the other hand, are off your rocker.
> >
> >You amuse me, Michael. You were exposed to a lot of random facts by
> >spending your childhood on a university campus, but because you never
> >completed your education--doing the work for yourself--you are unable
> >to mount a cogent argument. One minute, you quote a PhD friend of your
> >father's, and the next minute you quote a charlatan nutrition guru you
> >found on the web. Truly hilarious!
> >
> >You lack the knowlege it would take to make a rational judgment--on
> >evolution, or any other matter of scientific import..
> >
> >>the case is never closed. Till next time....
> >>TG
> >
> >Oh, I think we can say that this case is *definitely* closed.
> >
> >Say hello to your folks for me, Michael--if they don't slam the door in
> >your face.
> >
> > --E
> >
> >P.S. Galileo's educational pedigree sure did shut you up. I notice you
> >didn't respond to the question of where *your* degree is from. Because
> >you don't have one.
> >
> Your personal attacks show your true colors, that you are a bitter,
> little man..... Case closed.
> TG

I see I was 100% accurate! The truth hurts, doesn't it, Michael?

I, on the other hand, am plenty happy! And bigger than you are, in
every positive sense.

Make the best of your life, Michael. There's no shame in your
profession. Just be aware of your cognitive limitations on the
scientific front--and learn to keep those ill-founded opinions to
yourself. (And maybe even learn enough someday to change your
opinions.)

--E
Tireless Defender of the Rational World

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