Re: Frunt Gate [the 0'fish'ulle vershion]

On Mar 8, 1:20 pm, Old Tom <rascal...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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"When the earth is ravaged and the animals are dying, a new tribe of
people shall come unto the earth from many colors, classes, creeds,
and who by their actions and deeds shall make the earth green again.
They will be known as the warriors of the Rainbow".

A bellybutton does not make someone a Warrior of the Rainbow.

"We who are brothers and sisters, children of God, families of life on
earth, friends of nature & of all people, children of humankind
calling ourselves Rainbow Family Tribe, humbly invite:
...
to join with us in gathering together for the purpose of expressing
our sincere desire that there shall be peace on earth, harmony among
all people."

Not everyone is invited to attend Gatherings.  Only those who want to
join "together for the purpose of expressing our sincere desire that
there shall be peace on earth, harmony among all people."  There is a
tradition of Rainbow Gatherings telling some people they are not
welcome.  The "Local Violent Rednecks" are not welcomed, it is within
tradition for counsel to decide that other groups such as ... are not
welcome.

RAP A+#1 You aren't Welcome - Who you are
Rainbow Gatherings have always had a tradition of not welcoming or
allowing just anyone to attend....cont.
 Individuals and groups have been escorted out for actual, suspected,
anticipated, or rumored behavior ...cont
The Forest Service gives the Gathering exclusive private use of a
designated area of the National Forest and the right to decide who is
and who isn't welcome...cont
Etc...

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LEO Gustapo with paintball guns full of pepperspray ammo aren't
welcome as far as I'm concerned...

Although the original invitation to the 72 gathering and subsequent
invitations contain the strictures you mention, I for one will welcome
local rednecks as long as they are peaceable while at the gathering.
Nobody's violent all the time AND stays out of prison or the looney
bin.  Warriors of the Rainbow cannot show the world a better way if
they are an exclusive club that doesn't allow 'non members' to attend
the peaceable assembly.

Some peaceable assemblies are not rainbow gatherings, but all rainbow
gatherings are peaceable assemblies.

This statement "...club that doesn't allow 'non members' to attend
the peaceable assembly."  should read "...club that doesn't allow
peaceable non members to attend the assembly."

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You heard me Tom.  IMO the rainbow family is NOT a "club that doesn't
allow peaceable non members to attend the assembly."  Please...

As long as the gather is permitted and held under the governance of
the NCGU regulations, whether by signed permit application or
consensus, it is an event held annually for a club and its invited
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The Permit Regulation is an open colorable fraudulent attempt to
illicitly convert the vested right of the people peaceably to assemble
into a priviledge under license.  No, I repeat, NO Permit has ever
been issued for a rainbow gathering under the Permit Regulation de
jure {as written}; for the simple reason that there is NO WAY for the
gatherers to 'duly select' {elect/appoint} someone to sign.  A rainbow
council is nothing more than an ad hoc discussion circle and has no
jurisdiction beyond said circle.  There are no leaders or lawful
representatives, period.  Rainbow gatherings are societal, not
governmental, and generally only about a third of those gathered
participate in the Silence on the 4th so even "pray for Peace!"
doesn't meet the standard of simple majority.

Rainbow is a disorganization that works, at least in part, because of
workers like me.    :^)  It's a gathering of the tribes analogus to a
Pow Wow.  I think A Camp stays near the road because their beer is too
heavy to tote in.

The FS can issue a permit allowing the event under the NCGU
regulations with or with out a permit application signed by a
representative.  Using the consensed " Operating Plan" in lieu of
signed by a representative permit application is administratively
allowed and has been done in at least Ark and Wyoming most recently I
think.  The FS reserves a section of the National Forest for the
exclusive use of the event "Rainbow Gathering" during the July 1-7
period.  If you aren't part of the event, you aren't allowed there.
It is not open to the public.  Anyone who knows that a permit has been
issued for such exclusive use of National Forest by a group and still
enters and camps in the area and then tries to claim they are a party
of 1 recognizing no authority can be saluted for stubborness but I
wouldn't bet on their odds in court.

It's a three sided coin
1) There is an NCGU based Group permit issued with a signed
application.
2) There is an NCGU based Group permit issued with a consensed
operating plan.

As I see it both of those illicitly convert a substantive right into a
licensed privilege. Unconstitutional stuff is not law: 16th American
Jurisprudence, Second Edition, Section 256.

or
3)  There is no NCGU based permit issued for the Rainbow Gathering.
It is a free assembly of equal individuals.

:^)


I say No Permit - Civilly disobey the FS - but if there is a permit it
does NOT have to include violent drunk faux-Nazis' who want to burn
their mark into Mama Earth and hustle gentle newbies in the name of
protecting  ME and stealing beer money.

I won't tar all of A-Camp with the same brush, and I think you are
wrong to. Hows about we leave it at that?

Peace
.

Relevant Pages

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