Re: Obama’s Soylent Green Health Care



On Mar 28, 10:32 am, bodhi <psychedelictour...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
What IS the secret of Obama's Health Care??http://video.pbs.org/video/1443759794/

Here is a clue .....

"MY GOD!!! Soylent Green is
EUTHANASIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Obama: Euthanasia of the elderly may be necessaryhttp://directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/04/obama-endorses-government-ma...

Gee, socialized medicine sounds great -- don't you think so, grandma
and grandpa?

THE PRESIDENT: ...I actually think that the tougher issue around
medical care — it’s a related one — is what you do around things like
end-of-life care —

Yes, where it’s $20,000 for an extra week of life.

THE PRESIDENT: Exactly. And I just recently went through this. I mean,
I’ve told this story, maybe not publicly, but when my grandmother got
very ill during the campaign, she got cancer; it was determined to be
terminal. And about two or three weeks after her diagnosis she fell,
broke her hip. It was determined that she might have had a mild
stroke, which is what had precipitated the fall.

So now she’s in the hospital, and the doctor says, Look, you’ve got
about — maybe you have three months, maybe you have six months, maybe
you have nine months to live. Because of the weakness of your heart,
if you have an operation on your hip there are certain risks that —
you know, your heart can’t take it. On the other hand, if you just sit
there with your hip like this, you’re just going to waste away and
your quality of life will be terrible.

And she elected to get the hip replacement and was fine for about two
weeks after the hip replacement, and then suddenly just — you know,
things fell apart.

I don’t know how much that hip replacement cost. I would have paid out
of pocket for that hip replacement just because she’s my grandmother.
Whether, sort of in the aggregate, society making those decisions to
give my grandmother, or everybody else’s aging grandparents or
parents, a hip replacement when they’re terminally ill is a
sustainable model, is a very difficult question. If somebody told me
that my grandmother couldn’t have a hip replacement and she had to lie
there in misery in the waning days of her life — that would be pretty
upsetting.

And it’s going to be hard for people who don’t have the option of
paying for it.

THE PRESIDENT: So that’s where I think you just get into some very
difficult moral issues. But that’s also a huge driver of cost, right?

I mean, the chronically ill and those toward the end of their lives
are accounting for potentially 80 percent of the total health care
bill out here.

So how do you — how do we deal with it?

THE PRESIDENT: ...you have to have some independent group that can
give you guidance. It’s not determinative, but I think has to be able
to give you some guidance. And that’s part of what I suspect you’ll
see emerging out of the various health care conversations that are
taking place on the Hill right now.

In other words, faceless bureaucrats in Washington -- not your family
-- will decide whether your grandparents live or die.

While our health care system is certainly imperfect -- because all
humans are imperfect, including doctors, nurses, hospitals and
insurance companies -- they are more perfect, more competent, more
informed, more capable than all of the bureaucrats to whom they'll be
forced to report: a bureaucracy that will make all decisions about
your health care.

Obama and the Statist Democrats promise health care for everyone, but
they will not -- and they can't possibly -- deliver it.

And we know this, because this is what occurs in Canada and Britain
and other centralized bureaucracies, where you simply can not have
access to advanced health care, period.

And where will Barack Obama be in ten years, when the rest of us are
struggling with a massive, out-of-control, federalized medical system
that doesn't give a damn about individuals and is busy rationing care,
denying care to the elderly?

He will be retired as a very young man; a very wealthy young man, who
will have imposed his Marxist ideology upon this society and then
walked away from it.

Because the politicians don't last. But their policies live forever.

So much power for a faceless set of bureaucrats who can't possibly
have the best interests of your family in mind. And yet they're going
to take those decisions away from you and your doctor. And they've
been lying every day to justify what they're doing.

They've been lying about the number of people without health care.
They've been lying about whether the public is satisfied with health
care. They've been lying about every aspect of health care.

They unleashed the slip-and-fall lawyers on the medical system,
causing untold higher costs for medical practitioners. They've
attacked the health care system relentlessly, driving up costs just
like they've attacked the energy industry and the automakers.

And even when they have complete monopolistic control of a system,
like the educational system in America, they want more control. It's
never enough. They want more money, more regulations. More. They need
to "invest". They need to raise taxes. They need to repress. They need
to compel.

Because the Statist cannot make the imperfect perfect, even though he
says he can. The Statist is more imperfect than anyone else.

I ask you to consider something: what kind of people can Obama and the
Democrat leadership be, to think they can do these things when history
tells them they can not?

The answer is simple. They are power-hungry Statists.

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namaste;
bodhi

You're ridiculous, Twister-of-Words. "Give you some guidance", as the
President said, is certainly not "in other words ... faceless
bureaucrats ... decid(ing) whether your grandparents live or die".
You obviously haven't a clue about drivers of costs that are
associated with unwarranted services that have almost eradicated the
option of dying with dignity. The "fee for service" paradigm has
caused needless suffering and excrutiating pain for many in their
final days. I've witnessed this more than once firsthand. Other
opinions, not based on profit alone, would be welcomed.
.



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