Re: AGR is stuck in the internet of the "90s



On Sep 3, 11:09 pm, Potatora <gl...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sep 3, 1:49 am, "rainbowguardian" <robert_smrd...@xxxxxx> wrote:

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usenet is part of the internet!
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Actually, usenet can work without the internet. As long as the servers
can connect and exchange messages, it'll work. Remember the old
bulletin boards before everybody jumped on the internet? One computer
dials another over the phone and exchanges messages. It doesn't need
to be over the internet. As long as they know how to talk to each
other, that's what matters.

BTW, please get your attribution marks working. It's kinda confusing
to readers to have to figure out who wrote what. Peace.

you're all sorta right. there are 3 essential parts to the "internet"
as we know it. email, news, and web. each of these three works on a
different basic protocol: snmp/pop3 for email, nntp for news, http for
web. also things like ftp, voip and others have been or still are in
use, but these first three are the most used. but back in the day
when you signed up for internet a "full service" subscription, you
would have included access to all three major flavors of server.
nowdays it's harder to find an isp that advertises their nntp servers,
but you can find the addresses to plug into your Outlook or whatever
newsreader app on their support section if you look. you can have the
web with out newsgroups, or newsgroups and email without the web, and
even email all by itself, but all three (and others) use the TCP/IP
protocol for data representation, signaling, authentication, and error
detection. TCP/IP is the internet control protocol and any
communication between computers and servers that uses it is
technically the internet. Even if you never connected to the outside
world, you could have an internet in your home (or company), as long
as it uses TCP/IP. You can have news, mail and web servers all set up
and your own private internet. Many people take what is in actuality
the world wide web, or just 'web' to be the internet, mostly because
that's all they ever see is the internet through a web browser. but a
few of us old dogs (and IT pholk) remember how it was all set up
before you could just plug your box in and get online and surf email
and nntp servers without installing or setting up other apps.



I saw an interesting article the other day about craigslist. part of
it discussed the very basic format that they use and how it's actually
MORE used than the combination of paid sites in competition with
them.

J
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