Re: WHO: Swine Flu Could Trigger Global Pandemic

On Apr 25, 6:11 pm, bodhi <psychedelictour...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Apr 25, 10:34 am, michael_this...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:



Yeah, this one has me really worried. Why? Well because
 I don't know
why, but they kept the catastrophic news for the last sentence. I
guess they didn't want to scare us.

"So far, officials have been told all the cases have shown mild
symptoms."

Very funny Michael.

Yeah funny. You know bodhi in all the years I've been reading here
I've only seen one other person as slimy and low as you to cut up
someone's post to deliberately distort their intent and meaning.
Perhaps I should be surprised that I've only seen this sort of
deliberate twisting and distortion twice here, but I am definitely not
surprised that you are one of those two. Remember Marty?

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Ayin wrote:
it's kind of hard for me to get
all worked up over the right of humans <snip>

This is obvious from all of your postings. The Ocala permit
party should be just your cup of tea.

Marty

Hmm, Marty's paraphraseing people again, here's what Ayin really
said,
which sould be taken in context:

i'm sorry folks ... the permit issue is such small beans compared to
other issues that could be addressed. it's kind of hard for me to get
all worked up over the right of humans to temporarily camp in The
Forests when The Forests themselves are being despoiled. if anyone
wants the "rainbow gatherings" to become a form of protest it would
(for me) have to be a protest over something more important (to me)
than a permit.

Now that is a little different hmmmmm?????? Marty made it look that
Ayin was
against human rights, what utter crap and hog-wash, such deceptive
lies of
omission, but then it is common when prople debate who have nothing of
substance to add to the discussion... George
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Perhaps you can explain how a "disturbing disease
that combines pig, bird and human viruses in a way that researchers
have not seen before" came into existence naturally.

Yes, I can explain it easily. Its a natural process, viruses are able
to swap parts of their DNA.

I don't expect you to take my word for it so I'm not going to try and
summerize the books I've read. But I did a quick search and quickly
came up with this link, first one I checked. Just to give you some
sense of what a virus is and how it works. This could start your
research if you really cared to learn enough to discuss this
intelligently.

http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/alllife/virus.html

"On the other hand, because viruses can transfer genetic material
between different species of host, they are extensively used in
genetic engineering. Viruses also carry out natural "genetic
engineering": a virus may incorporate some genetic material from its
host as it is replicating, and transfer this genetic information to a
new host, even to a host unrelated to the previous host. This is known
as transduction, and in some cases it may serve as a means of
evolutionary change"


Was it a result of a barnyard orgy gone bad??

You do realize that there a very many farms with pigs, chickens, and
humans in close proximity don't you? And that many viruses are
transmitted by any brief physical contact with an infected animal or
even by contact with something the infected animal had contact with.
But in many cases no physical contact at all is required to transmit a
virus.

Nature is prolific, she tosses out an over abundance of seeds, spores,
pollen, bacteria, and virus into the wind, the vast majority do not
land in a suitable host. If you live near a tree with a fungi you have
spores in you that can only grow on certain types of trees. Virtually
all of us have bacteria and viruses that can only grow, i.e. cause
disease, in a dog or cat. Some of us have viruses that are specific to
farm animals in our body. There doesn't have to be sex or even
contact. There is always the possibility that some animal disease will
interact with a virus that is specific to humans and generate a strain
that contains elements of both.


and how can you explain the World Health Organization's "pandemic
alert" on a mysterious virus described as "genetically different from
the fully human H1N1 seasonal influenza virus that has been
circulating globally for the past few years. The new flu virus
contains DNA typical to avian, swine and
human viruses, including elements from European and Asian swine
viruses."

I've seen at least a dozen WHO pandemic alerts over the years, there
were probably another dozen or more I didn't see. So far none have
panned out. Yet there is always a possibility of a particularly
harmful strain developing and spreading world wide. This may be the
one but I've seen no evidence yet that convinces me that we're about
to face a global pandemic.

Now I think it likely that many governments, including the US, as well
as other groups are involved in top secret research in the creation of
biological weapons. Its possible this strain was created in a lab. But
all you've proven so far is that you are completely ignorant of what a
virus is, how it interacts with a cell to reproduce, the process of
genetic recombination and reassortment.



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