Re: heart attack survival, when alone (re-post)


My belief is that all this info AND opinion could prove helpful to ppl
we love. If for no other, than to cause some thought and perhaps
planning for what will indubitably be an event for many. Thanks to
all. Remain open, but wear your pants when making soup. "atts a
joke boy" ~ that crazzy-ass chicken to his little buddy.

On Mar 24, 11:48 am, Carla <c...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Practicing medicine without a license, I see ...



spiritrising wrote:
quote: The symptoms preceding an attack can be hard for people to recognize
in the 30 seconds before they lose consciousness, he said.

and having had one, it only took 10 seconds before i was out.

said the concept is interesting but that Petelenz showed no evidence his
patients actually had arrhythmia's.
Petelenz presented results from a study he conducted on 115 people who had
previously fainted or come close to losing consciousness because of various
heart problems. They were taught how to recognize the symptoms - sudden
dizziness and weakness, shortness of breath, sudden sweating and blurred
vision - and then taught the proper coughing technique.

The patients used the cough in 365 instances where they thought they were
about to faint. The symptoms disappeared in 292 cases and medical attention
was required in only 73 cases.

"All patients survived until the follow-up therapy, which included 45
pacemaker implantations, 55 heart surgeries and 15 (drug) interventions,"
Petelenz said.

a heart attack or stroke happens for a reason, IF in 292 cases only medical
attention was required for 73, that means only 73 had an heart attack or
had other circumstances the rest were false attacks. that and that
particular doctor presented no proof that the patients even had an attack
period.

and this wouldn't work for a heart attack and infact would make it worse and
cause damage if it was a myocardial schema or infarction. it might work for
a cardiac arrest, but how does a patient without being hooked up to a
electrocardiogram ever know the difference between the two?

and again on the aspirin when your having a heart attack, who in the hell
has time or can run to the bathroom to get a aspirin that quick? unless a
person has one on their body and they are not having an attack that
paralyzes the left side might be able to do it. but I doubt it. most who are
already at risk and are being treated have a order for whatever strength the
doctor thinks is good for that person, generally 80mg up to 325, but if a
body is not careful and has a different type of blood problem you could very
well do more damage if it was a burst vein that caused the problem instead
of a clot. and i know of no one who can check to see if that is the case
themselves at home. taking that extra aspirin could very well mean death
before help is there. and that article will tell you that most are caused by
clots but not all.

knowing the differences in stokes, heart attacks and such is impossible to
diagnose in the ten to 20 seconds after they happen. heart attacks can be
caused by may things from a clot to a rip, or a burst artery, or even a
collapsed artery. coughing in no way can help in these cases IF they do not
know what caused it to begin with. mine was a collapsed vessel to the heart
which required a stint to open it up. all the coughing in the world would
not have helped open that vessel. you would be better off teaching those
around you about cpr and other things to do than trying to save yourself by
unproved techniques. and also learn the signs for such and get checked by a
doctor if you are older and at risk for a problem. but if you insist on
coughing by all means go ahead, i'll know thats what you want to do, and go
sit back down, since you got the problem solved. spiritrising- Hide quoted text -

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