Re: Why unconstitutional laws must always be disobeyed


"Shava_X" <voodopeople@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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<snip of comprehensive and very good post>

Breaking the law is a less than ideal way to protest a bad
law. The
United States, and most other modern nations are nations
of law.
Advocating ignoring the law threatens the very foundation
which allows for
a government which can in any way protect the rights of
all of its
citizens. There are other ways to protest bad laws.
Non-violent, lawful,
protest calling for change is far better than advocating
blatant disregard
for the law.

Not according to Rosa Parks, one of my heroes.

Finally, in any democratic style of government, You must
accept that Your
view is not the only view.

Agreed.

If You expect Your view to be the only
acceptable view, and/or expect Your view to be absolute
law, then You do
not want any form of democratic or representational
government.

You want
some form of autocratic government with You at its head.

Sounds fine to me, since I can conduct myself in the
appropriate manner. I can easily govern myself without
threat to others, thank you.


"Is there any reason why any politician who proposes or
votes for an
unconstitutional law should not be tried and convicted of
treason? "

Yes. Neither fits the definition of treason.

The concept of treason is rather ridiculous in my view,
since in order to accept any notion of the idea, it seems
one must accept the overall idea that borders are good, that
nations and peoples must remain separated politically,
rather than a one world concept, and finally, that it is
better for us to kill "them" than for "them" to kill us.

Proposing a law is an act
of speech, not treason. Voting in favor of a law is also
an act of
speech, and can equally be an act of protest against a
potentially flawed
Constitution. Neither of those things are treason. The
form of
Government currently in place in the United States has
mechanisms in place
to deal with unconstitutional laws which includes methods
for determining
when a law is unconstitutional without installing a single
autocratic
despot to force that decision on everyone.


Don't need an autocratic despot for anyone but me, nor an
abridgement of the right to peaceably assemble. I have
defined "abridge" here on many occasions. I am and have ever
been my own autocratic despot, since the day my inner eye
was opened to reason.

I do not accept or agree that the Constitution grants
anything at all, but rather, that it affirms that which is
already obvious, and that which will live on if humanity
survives, long after the U.S. Constitution is dust in the
wind.

I would like to thank you, Shava_X, for expressing yourself
so thoughtfully and thoroughly.



Thunder






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