Re: Getting burnt


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Usually i read Nietzsche for his commentary on
philosophy, but then i
found this quote that sort of sums up the events of
my life since last
July.

"The true man wants two things: danger and play. For
that reason he
wants woman, as the most dangerous plaything."

- Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 - 1900)

Use to be Evergreen, babe, now it's Queen Bee.....

The black, black widow is sittin' in the middle of
the web,
it's the fly she seeks.
You may be her lover but you never will recover,
'cause
she ain't had a bite for weeks.
You think your the same, 'cause you got the same
name,
but the widow has a mobile home.
Remember what I told you, she got eight arms to hold
you,
and she's never gonna let you roam.
She'll tuck into bed and truck on your head, then
she'll
wrap you as a midnight snack.
So if you see a spider, don't you sidle up beside
her
Why'd you think the widow's wearin' black?

Queen bee, baby
Pray that you may be left on your own, uh huh
Nothin' she'll give you, gonna outlive you, uh, uh,
uh
But the queen bee's never gonna be alone. Uh huh.
Long before Atlantis there has been a praying mantis
and
you knows why he's on his knees.
He may have religion but he's just a sittin' pigeon
if a
woman even starts to tease.
He won't even quibble if she has a little nibble on
his neck,
what a way to go.
And now you done and torn it! You been messin' with
a
hornet, she's a blue-blooded wasp, you know.
And just as you do it, she'll inject you with a
fluid that you
ain't even got but none.
You're the meat on the plate, not even first rate,
she's
gonna feed you to her seventh son.

Just like the Queen Bee, baby
Pray that you may be left on your own,
Nothin' she'll give you, gonna outlive you, uh, uh,
uh
But the queen bee's never gonna be alone. Uh huh. Uh
huh.

So, in conclusion, it's an optical illusion, if you
think that
we're the weaker race.
Men got the muscle, but the ladies got the hustle,
and the
truth is staring in your face.
The mother bear stalks, and the queen of the hawks,
is the
one who brings home the bread.
The lion that is regal, and the bald headed eagle,
need a
woman just to keep them fed.
But come the evenin', we're like Adam and his Eve,
inside
the garden. Hear the serpent's sound?
It's so frustratin', when you're really into matin',
and there
ain't a lovin' man around.

Whoever wrote this story
(it's so frustratin', when you're really
into matin', and there ain't a lovin' man around)
Throw out the glory
(it's so frustratin', when you're really
into matin', and there ain't a lovin' man around)
Bring in the men (give me them and I'll swing)
Write me a sequel
Give me an equal, oh, oh, oh
And I'll give that man
I said I'm give that lovin' man
I said I'm gonna give that lovin' man
I'm gonna give him that lovin' sting! Zap!

Adam exclaims to Eve as he first catches sight of her
appearing from
behind the fig tree ... "oh hey Eve! I'm so glad
you've been created.
now I have someone to blame for everything."

Eve exclaims to Adam when she first sees him as she's
coming out from
behind the fig tree ... "Hi Adam! Is that a serpent
in your apple tree
or are you just pleased to see me?"

[Bill Hicks]:

I learned a lot about women. I think I learned exactly
how the fall of
man occured in the Garden of Eden. Adam and Eve were in
the Garden of
Eden, and Adam said one day, "Wow, Eve, here we are, at
one with
nature, at one with God, we'll never age, we'll never
die, and all our
dreams come true the instant that we have them." And
Ever said,
"Yeah... it's just not enough is it?"

i've learned that some folks believe any nonsense they
read no matter
how rediculous. yep ... "God" is male, like a human male
even, but
has no female counterpart. what that He god does with his
supreme
penis is anyOne's guess. i think it interesting that
most all
religion base thier dogma on blaming women for man's
downfall and use
the blame as justification for the oppression of women.
all these
millenium later the human male STILL sees himself as
victim of woman's
wily ways. some guys just never get over the trauma of
toilet
training. infants forever, i suppose.


I postulate some symbology which precedes the development of
lore and myth which is then passed down through generations
and eons is actually based in physical attributes such as
the protrusion, or "dominance", or "positive" nature of the
penis as directly contrasted to the hidden or unknown or
less dominant or mysterious attributes of the mainly hidden
parts of the vagina.
..

Now I realize that this all probably makes me some kind of
chauvinist or something but I'm just conjecturing and trying
to find a way to understand why over the centuries these
things you speak of have come to pass. It might not be a bad
idea to try and understand these kinds of things in order to
see why things sometimes turn out like they do.

i'm not gonna consider you chauvanist for pointing out that most
primate social structures are male dominated

In all forms you will see creative and receptive, dominant
and submissive, dark and light, etc. These contrasts are
what define many things and distinguish them from one
another. The resulting differences are nice too, since I
personally don't want to be making love with someone who
looks like me.

I'm also of the opinion that the values different people
place on the functions of the people in their families and
relationships are what defines relative importance. The way
our species is currently set up women are of equal value to
men (or more so depending on viewpoint), since only women so
far can birth babies. Of course, it also requires something
from the man, so without either, the species would falter
badly, and pretty quickly as well.

In the current 10,000-year or so interglacial period we live
within, our written history no doubt records a predominance
of male-domination, but that doesn't necessarily mean such
has always been the case.

My $2.00 worth.

it's a complex psychological puzzle that i won't pretend i can put
together. but it all has something to do with guilt ... guilt ... one
of the few things that humans feel that other critters dont. i dont
know when, why or how the first human felt guilt or how it became
attached to sexuality. maybe having something to do with
hunting/killing, spilling blood and the breaking of the hymen? the
female's monthly blood flow mysterious and scary to the male and so it
became a curse? jealousy of the magic of childbirth maybe? maybe
having to do with the males need to be assured that his seed is being
propagated so exclusive ownership of the female had to be instituted?
**shrug** maybe just simply that once babies are born the man has to
work harder for basic survival?
all of the above and more even complexities?
**shrug again** i dont know how man came to value his own existance
more than that of his mate, to value his children that have penises
more than ones with vaginas or how woman became the scapegoat for all
his problems. i speak, of course, in general terms. many men have
evolved past self agrandizement thru predjudice and the need to deflect
responsibility.

.

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