Re: Buses running on french fry grease?
- From: "peaceful" <peacefulstu@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 29 Mar 2006 13:36:05 -0800
"what happened to gasahol? is it the same thing? why is it not as
available as a decade ago?"
10% ethanol just doesn't cut it, for saving money, recycling, or
reducing pollution much. Many vehicles even get worse mileage on the
stuff. It is mainly a big tax subsidy for Archer Daniels Midland.
"So would mixing diesel with the grease solve any of these problems?"
It is really not that big a problem, you just drive awhile on diesel or
biodiesel then press a button to switch to veggie (yes and what Thunder
said: MAKE
SURE YOU SWITCH THE FUEL SWITCHOVER VALVE BACK TO THE DIESEL (or
biodiesel) TANK BEFORE SHUTTING DOWN THE ENGINE, ABOUT 5 MINUTES, but
if you think ahead a little you can do this while moving )
Mixing a little biodiesel in the veggie tank as well keeps the veggie
oil a bit thinner, but is probably unnecessary. In Albuquerque, you
can trade grease for biodiesel, just try that at the truck stop for
diesel. The big biodiesel producers use virgin soybean oil, because the
labor collection costs are just too much. If you find a local backyard
biodiesel producer that will trade you biodiesel for grease even at a
low ratio it can be win-win for both of you as long as your collection
costs are low. (think inside restaurant connection and/or bicycle cart
here)
"And what about LP gas?"
Totally different thing. Propane comes from both natural gas and oil.
But i hear that natural gas prices are skyrocketing, and they are
probably going to go higher because massive amounts of natural gas are
being used to convert tar sands to oil. But who knows, supposedly some
countries are building massive gas liquification ports so natural gas
can be exported just like oil. At least natural gas burns cleanly.
"I watched a tv show about using biodiesel (30 days) and it looked
complicated. They had to put the stuff in these large tanks in thier
garage and add chemicals and other stuff before it was ready to use.
Can you really just suck it out of a grease bin, filter it and use it
like that? "
Making biodiesel sucks. Thats why it is best to get to know (and help)
a hobbyist and work out some deal for biodiesel, and get the kind of
real world on the ground info to see if bio-diesel or SVO is your thing
(Frankly, the simple bicycle is my thing). But then you probably can't
line up enough homemade biodiesel friends on the road.
That's why converting vehicles to Straight Veggie Oil is preferred,
though the SVO conversion kit is ~$800-$1,000 and is not easy, we
needed some welding help, and some pretty good hippie mechanics. There
are probably some even better hippie mechanics out there who could make
an SVO conversion system from junked parts. With a SVO vehicle one can
load up all over america, and cook it and filter it with simple
apparatus (pot, sieve, cloth bag) and no toxic chemicals, though it
takes time, but chill, slackin' hippies could use a road/camp hobby.
"I have heard that some places are selling E-85 though..."
The potential for farm, commune or big backyard ethanol conversion is
truly massive considering how much food gets tossed in america, but
building a still and mash barrel takes time and experience, them
hillbillies weren't so dumb, actually extremely resourceful. Yes and
you couldn't take the still with you, so ethanol is mainly a local
thing. There's a guy in Boulder whose sort of the low-tech high yield
guru of home-distillary.
.
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