Re: Mozilla VS Fire Fox, was ( Rip Calvin The Dog 1995-2005)

Hawker wrote:
hmm.
What your talking about sounds nice. I assume Mozilla has similar plug ins. 

Basically not true.

Firefox extensions are built with XUL, a XML User interface markup Language which makes it relatively easy for people with a background in web programming and design to create extensions. If you know CSS, JavaScript, DTD and RDF, you can write an extension. The idea actually started with Mozilla, but it was greatly expanded and enhanced with Firefox. Thats what sets Firefox apart from Mozilla - the extension of the extensions.


Still to me the web user, not web page composer, Mozilla has many
features the way I like them that FireFox doesn't have.
For example I much prefer Mozilla's inline search to Fire Fox's. Mozilla has more of the RMB features I use, 
I have no idea what RMB is.


handles TABs better,

In what way ? I'm am quite sure that Firefox does everything and more. That's the whole idea behind firefox, it does more. I can right click on a bookmark folder and open all the bookmarks at once. I can move the tabs around in any order. I can save all the tabs as a folder, I can copy all the open urls. I can open any page in internet explorer, which I have to do every time I finish a page just to make sure there aren't any fuckups, I get the weather report at the bottom of my screen, I can instantly get the html for any color on the screen, which is really helpful, I can restore all the tabs in my last browsing seesion, I can view the source in any application I choose or a built in rendered source viewer ( as well as the regular mozilla viewer), I can completely control what happens with mouse gestures, I have smooth scrolling, which is really really neat and has totally spoiled me, I practically can't stand reading in any other application, I can totaly control what sites to allow javascript on, I haven't seen a popup in a year. This is all done with extensions and many of these things you can't even do in Mozilla.

has a more developed side bar and search bar and more. 

Nonsense. Here are 133 extensions of Firefox's search capabilities
https://addons.mozilla.org/quicksearch.php?q=search&section=A

Firefox is deliberately simple before you tweak it. That's what makes it better:it ultimately gives the user more control over the browser. Its a software concept sometimes called modular programming that was developed in the last ten years in response to bloatware like Netscape- instead of making a huge application that does everything just have a basic package with modules you can add on. This is the concept that started Firefox and eventually won over Mozilla. Now they aren't making any more Mozilla. Even the people who make Mozilla consider it to be bloatware and are now concentrating instead on Firefox. Although you might not start out with all the "little" things, in the end you get exactly the little things you want and more of them. Many many more. The developement team now includes plain old web programmers like me and not just C programmers. Its a much better concept. It isn't just that the browser and mail program are separate, many many functions within the browser come as separate modules called extensions.
The I just find that it's the little features and items that Mozilla has that Fire Fox does not. 
If you only knew how rediculous this is.
Here's 743 little things for Firefox.
https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/showlist.php?application=firefox&category=All


Believe me, whatever you want, its in there.

Believe me I try. I have Fire Fox on all the computes here but my main one, which has Mozilla 1.7.12. On the other hand I can install Fire Fox and it is mostly set up the way I want. Mozilla takes a few preference tweaks before it works the way I want.

Yes, I have been tweaking for two years. That's not a negative, its a positive. The best thing about Firefox is that you can easily tweak just about anything in it.

I guess it's just a matter of preference or what your used to. I was stuck on Netscape 4.7x much longer than I should have been.

Its probably has alot to do with what you are used to. 
Hawker

On 10/24/2005 5:50 PM, The digits of meltedown's hands composed the following:
> There's some minor bugs, but overall, as far as I can see, Firefox is

the best browser.

Alot of the functionality is in the plugins which is the way it spozed to be.
1)Not everyone needs all the functionality of all the plugins
2)Any programmer can make a plug in so there's lots of people working on them.

I write web pages for a living, so I'm slanted toward having all the plugin gizmos that make all the page info readily available, which the firefox plugins do a great job of.

For example, if I look a page, or even if I look at the code, its hard to tell which table cells are really neccesary. When I look at the page in Firefox's html helper addons, I can tell immediately whats goin on.
I can add a style to the style *** of whatever page I'm looking at just by clickin on a link in the browser. I can instantaneously put colored borders around all the table cells or block elements or whatever I want. I can also edit the style *** of any site to see what makes the layout tick. I don't have to save the style*** or the webpage, I just edit it live so to speak. This makes it much easier to isolate just what style does what. I just delete all the styles except the ones I'm interested in, and then I can easily see what's happening.

Once I get rid of the table cells, its a whole lot easier to edit the code to fix layout problems like inconsistent spacings and margins.
That's mostly what I do is fix code, and firefox is a godsend. 
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