Re: driver license photo's online

Carla wrote: 
Razzbar wrote:


spiritrising wrote:

heres the answer for ya::
Identifying documents are swiped or scanned to verify that their format
adheres to the proprietary standards of issuing state motor vehicle
departments and other government entities.

so what they are saying is it shows the card to be a valid card or not. it
doesn't give anyone information per se, other than the card is a valid card.


But the article I read said that the terminal gave the person's name,
address, etc. It was not a simple pass/fail.

The question is how the database company got the information, given
that the state (Idaho) has a law against disclosing d/l information.
And another question is how the state can justify paying a private
entity for information that it has previously given it, illegally.

This company certainly gathers as much information as it can from many
sources, and then collates it, increasing its value. Taking a person's
name and associating it with this bit of information from one source,
and another bit from another source, piecing a jigsaw puzzle together.

My recent experinces with geneaology tells me that there is a LOT of
information you can gather about a person by linking loose threads from
here and there. It also tells me that there is a LOT of misinformation
available, and that sometimes it doesn't reveal itself to be false
until it is carefully analyzed.

The danger can be illustrated by what actually happened to a friend a
few years ago: He was pulled over at a routine traffic stop, and then
hauled off to jail, because his driver's license had been revoked for
failure to pay child support payments -- for a child 9 years younger
than he was. His name and the name of the deadbeat dad were the same,
and nobody checked any further to see if he was actually the right guy.
The debris of that arrest are still coming back to haunt him whenever
he tries to apply for veteran's benefits, pay income taxes, apply for a
mortage, etc.

I've got a friend who has a warrant out for is arrest, only its not him. The SS# on the warrant is his, but he's white and the suspect is black. My friend travels alot and he carries a letter form his congressman explaining the situation. He still gets taken into custody every now and then. 

Probably a good reason to give your kids unusual names. It's one thing
to answer for your own mistakes. Quite another to be held accountable
for someone else's.



This has caused a controversy here in Eugene. Seems the cops often asked for
folks' social security numbers to "verify" the person is who they say they are.
They imply that if it's not given, the person will go to jail. Of course, some
folks refuse anyway. There are stories on the streets about people being arrested
for not giving a soc. sec. #. The question is: is it legal to demand them?

What if you just say "I forgot" ? 
One of the problems is that the SS number is usually a very good way to
distinguish between people with similar names. So the police department looks at
it as a convenience to the person involved, as well as to themselves. They do
prefer to get the right guy (gal) if they are going to arrest someone.

But there were community members (myself included) who asked that the policy be
changed, and it was. A new policy was hashed out with the participation of
interested/vested community members. They now only ask for the ss # if there is
any question that someone has a warrant out or may be arrested for a crime. And
when they do ask, they must tell the person that they don't have to give it to
them.

Apparently, this is a "1st" in the country. Most departments don't have any
policy at all about asking for soc. sec #s. It's done all all across the country,
but there are no policies about it?


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