Re: What are we doing in Afghanistan?

On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 18:23:49 -0700, Sanity RE wrote:

>
> Shava_X wrote:
>> On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 14:12:06 -0500, That Guy wrote:
>>
>> > Why are US soldiers still in Afghanistan? Are we still looking for OBL
>> > there? Or are we trying to manufacture a government for them like we are in
>> > Iraq?
>>
>>
>> i believe the official line is that U.S. troops are hunting down and
>> destroying the last remnants of Al-Queda and the Taliban.
>>
>> In an NPR clip some time ago, a U.N. adviser who was supposed to be
>> providing assistance to the Council that was crafting Afghanistan's new
>> Constitution admitted that He and His colleagues didn't really know what
>> was going on. They (the U.N. Staff) would answer questions, but were
>> completely lost as to the process that was going on around them.
>
> "I don't know." is my favorite answer. I support the troops, not the
> wars; and anyone that doesn't understand how I can do that learned
> nothing from the Vietnam era. Troops in a combat zone fight to defend
> eachother and have no time for intellectual niceties like politics.
>
> I am STILL waiting to see the "proof" Dubya boasted he had that Osama
> was behind the 9-11 attack to justify the attack on Afghanistan in the
> first place. Looks to me like just more lies, not the "lawful orders"
> US Troops are oath bound to obey. Gulf of Tonken Resolution - Weapons
> of Mass Destruction - the Lucitania WAS carrying munitions in its hold
> - the USS Maine was scuttled not sunk by the Spanish, ect.
>
> "War is a racket." - Smedley Butler, USMC retired, winner of TWO
> Congressional Medals of Honor!
>
> Peace,
> Sanity RE


True, the Bush Administration has never publicly released much of the
evidence it claims to have indicating the Bin Laden was behind the 9-11
attacks. Certainly not enough to make successful argument in court. But
most other nations, including France, Germany and Canada, seem convinced.
France and Canada even sent troops to Afghanistan. So i suppose i can
give the benefit of the doubt in that situation. (Or am i giving to much
trust and credit to France et al?)

The Clinton Administration sought, and received an indictment against Bin
Laden for the first World Trade Center Attack. The indictment was kept
secret, and i think the Grand Jury in general might have been held in
secret. It would be reassuring if the Bush Administration would do the
same, get an indictment from a Grand Jury, even if the Grand Jury has to
held in secret. But i doubt the Bush Administration would even consider
doing that ...

Iraq, yeah, that was a load from the start. Even before the Invasion, it
was nearly impossible to make a convincing argument for it with out
disregarding much of reality. The new arguments in favor of the Invasion
go even further in that respect. "The World is a safer Place". The 9-11
commission found that Saddam had effectively denied Al-Queda requests to
set up training camps in Iraq and for material support. But now the CIA
has determined that all of Iraq has turned into one huge training camp,
and once (hopefully it is not a question of if) the U.S. leaves Iraq,
thousands of well trained terrorist will spill out into the rest of the
world. Yeah, safer indeed...

Some people think war is just a mechanism for generating profit, a racket,
others don't :
"We make war that we may live in peace" --Aristotle
Each war is probably unique in its combination of factors ...



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