Re: Is corn syrup bad?

Some people always have to be "right." Just be grateful you're not married to the
guy (gal?).

"mirandajoanhowe@xxxxxxxxx" wrote:

> jesus, shava, twelve steps very little concerns itself with how to
> quite the addictive action or substance. And furthermore that guy
> tells you that something is an insult and you knock yourself over just
> about trying to say it again! i think you are just argumentative. And
> I think you seek out and then cultivate just the right wrong position.
> It's an outstanding feature of your posting. Why? For attention? out
> of bitterness? In order to syphon off energies of those who haven't
> seen through you but who would instead take up the argument with you
> and, since you dig your heels in and never budge from the frivalous and
> indefensible argument you first submit, any dialoguing with you is
> useless. And no, i do NOT mean it is useless because you won't be
> changed to my view point and only my viewpoint is allowed, so don't be
> tedious in saying so. No. it is useless because of the poverty of
> vigor you bring to the field. you dig in for sure but you don't bring
> energy and new ideas and fax to the subject at hand. if not for the
> spirit of conflict energy would be nonexistant in these gives and
> takes. in fact, the matter lacks passion. I don't learn anything the
> way i usually do when reading opinions contrary to my own when sincere
> conditions prevail. you've had four people get angry with you over
> your one single position with which you came out flat footedly saying
> from your first post here on ward. yet you've come up with no new
> arguments just saying the same thing over and over oblivious to the
> buttons you are pushing and feelings you are hurting despite being
> foursquare told. i've hinted here at your troll status. but more than
> that, your position and treatment of people are those of an offender in
> denial. so you both are in denial and are dealing with the subject of
> addiction
> and the result is harsh to behold in your posts. But even with
> function and subject
> closely allied, you are not remotely even in the ballpark. Carla and
> that Guy and others are talking about trying to navigate through
> confusing literature to deal with immediate and chronic problems of
> moment, and you are trying to rationalize greedy industry and long
> since trashed medical stances. <R>
>
> Shava_X wrote:
> > On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 11:41:40 -0500, That Guy wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > "Shava_X" <voodopeople@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > > news:pan.2005.09.17.15.00.23.800449@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 20:16:22 -0700, mirandajoanhowe@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > >
> > >>> Corn
> > >>> syrup is very bad.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> It is not the corn syrup. It is the calories. It is that simple.
> > >
> > > It would be so nice if it were that simple, but it isn't, not by a long
> > > shot.
> > >
> > > Recent large-scale studies show that people who eat the same amount of
> > > calories and get the same amount of exercise do not gain or lose the same
> > > amount of weight when the distribution of carbs to protein to fats is
> > > different. Carb calories are more readily converted to fat.
> > >
> > > But it's not THAT simple, either. What you eat affects how you feel and how
> > > much you want to exercise. Many people, if they overload on carbs they want
> > > to sleep, but if they keep to more complex carbs and get a higher percentage
> > > of their calories from protein and fat. Soy is excellent in this regard.
> > > Plus there are blood sugar issues which have a lot to do with feelings of
> > > hunger, muscle gain, fat gain and overall body health.
> > >
> > >
> > >>If you
> > >> want to loose weight, either reduce the number of calories you consume, or
> > >> increase the number of calories you burn.
> > >
> > >
> > > Why do you state the obvious? I've heard this parroted so many times by
> > > people it makes me want to puke. Do you really think there's anyone on the
> > > planet over the age of eight who doesn't know this already? It's like
> > > saying, "If you want to increase your hydration, drink more water."
> > >
> > > In addition, it's an incredibly ignorant and arrogant thing to say. Would
> > > you say about alcoholism, "If you want to stop having problems with alcohol,
> > > then drink less"? Would you say about drug addiction, "If you want to stop
> > > having problems with drugs, take less of them"? Would you say about a
> > > compulsive gambler, "If you have a problem with gambling, then don't do it
> > > so much"? No, because most people understand enough about addiction to know
> > > it's not caused by a lack of understanding; the alcoholic KNOWS he drinks
> > > too much, the gambler KNOWS he gambles too much, etc. Most people realize
> > > this.
> > >
> > > ...
> >
> >
> > Would i say that to an alcoholic? perhaps. Because is can be argued that
> > it is that simple. The difficult part how. And only people, apparently
> > like You, jump to the conclusion that such a statement Dismisses that. It
> > does not. The "arrogant" thing is to launch into a diatribe because YOU,
> > yes You, decided to ignore that that such a statement is a starting point,
> > not an end.
> >
> > If an alcoholic wants to end, or at least reduce their problems with
> > alcohol, they Must stop drinking. It is that simple. The difficult part
> > is the next question : How to do that. That is purpose of groups like AA,
> > to address the how. Any one attending (almost) has already determined
> > that they have a problem and must stop drinking, they are searching for a
> > way to stop.




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