Re: Is corn syrup bad?

damn miranda! i sure need to call you and get that outlook express going so
it would be easier to post. use what i gave ya, its easy todo and would make
it easier to navigate, and save the old double post from happening. love
spiritrising

"mirandajoanhowe@xxxxxxxxx" <mirandaraven@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:1127295676.227510.174030@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> jesus, shava, twelve steps very little concerns itself with how to
> quite the addictive action or substance. And furthermore that guy
> tells you that something is an insult and you knock yourself over just
> about trying to say it again! i think you are just argumentative. And
> I think you seek out and then cultivate just the right wrong position.
> It's an outstanding feature of your posting. Why? For attention? out
> of bitterness? In order to syphon off energies of those who haven't
> seen through you but who would instead take up the argument with you
> and, since you dig your heels in and never budge from the frivalous and
> indefensible argument you first submit, any dialoguing with you is
> useless. And no, i do NOT mean it is useless because you won't be
> changed to my view point and only my viewpoint is allowed, so don't be
> tedious in saying so. No. it is useless because of the poverty of
> vigor you bring to the field. you dig in for sure but you don't bring
> energy and new ideas and fax to the subject at hand. if not for the
> spirit of conflict energy would be nonexistant in these gives and
> takes. in fact, the matter lacks passion. I don't learn anything the
> way i usually do when reading opinions contrary to my own when sincere
> conditions prevail. you've had four people get angry with you over
> your one single position with which you came out flat footedly saying
> from your first post here on ward. yet you've come up with no new
> arguments just saying the same thing over and over oblivious to the
> buttons you are pushing and feelings you are hurting despite being
> foursquare told. i've hinted here at your troll status. but more than
> that, your position and treatment of people are those of an offender in
> denial. so you both are in denial and are dealing with the subject of
> addiction
> and the result is harsh to behold in your posts. But even with
> function and subject
> closely allied, you are not remotely even in the ballpark. Carla and
> that Guy and others are talking about trying to navigate through
> confusing literature to deal with immediate and chronic problems of
> moment, and you are trying to rationalize greedy industry and long
> since trashed medical stances. <R>
>
>
>
> Shava_X wrote:
>> On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 11:41:40 -0500, That Guy wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > "Shava_X" <voodopeople@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> > news:pan.2005.09.17.15.00.23.800449@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 20:16:22 -0700, mirandajoanhowe@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>> >
>> >>> Corn
>> >>> syrup is very bad.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> It is not the corn syrup. It is the calories. It is that simple.
>> >
>> > It would be so nice if it were that simple, but it isn't, not by a long
>> > shot.
>> >
>> > Recent large-scale studies show that people who eat the same amount of
>> > calories and get the same amount of exercise do not gain or lose the
>> > same
>> > amount of weight when the distribution of carbs to protein to fats is
>> > different. Carb calories are more readily converted to fat.
>> >
>> > But it's not THAT simple, either. What you eat affects how you feel
>> > and how
>> > much you want to exercise. Many people, if they overload on carbs they
>> > want
>> > to sleep, but if they keep to more complex carbs and get a higher
>> > percentage
>> > of their calories from protein and fat. Soy is excellent in this
>> > regard.
>> > Plus there are blood sugar issues which have a lot to do with feelings
>> > of
>> > hunger, muscle gain, fat gain and overall body health.
>> >
>> >
>> >>If you
>> >> want to loose weight, either reduce the number of calories you
>> >> consume, or
>> >> increase the number of calories you burn.
>> >
>> >
>> > Why do you state the obvious? I've heard this parroted so many times
>> > by
>> > people it makes me want to puke. Do you really think there's anyone on
>> > the
>> > planet over the age of eight who doesn't know this already? It's like
>> > saying, "If you want to increase your hydration, drink more water."
>> >
>> > In addition, it's an incredibly ignorant and arrogant thing to say.
>> > Would
>> > you say about alcoholism, "If you want to stop having problems with
>> > alcohol,
>> > then drink less"? Would you say about drug addiction, "If you want to
>> > stop
>> > having problems with drugs, take less of them"? Would you say about a
>> > compulsive gambler, "If you have a problem with gambling, then don't do
>> > it
>> > so much"? No, because most people understand enough about addiction to
>> > know
>> > it's not caused by a lack of understanding; the alcoholic KNOWS he
>> > drinks
>> > too much, the gambler KNOWS he gambles too much, etc. Most people
>> > realize
>> > this.
>> >
>> > ...
>>
>>
>> Would i say that to an alcoholic? perhaps. Because is can be argued
>> that
>> it is that simple. The difficult part how. And only people, apparently
>> like You, jump to the conclusion that such a statement Dismisses that.
>> It
>> does not. The "arrogant" thing is to launch into a diatribe because YOU,
>> yes You, decided to ignore that that such a statement is a starting
>> point,
>> not an end.
>>
>> If an alcoholic wants to end, or at least reduce their problems with
>> alcohol, they Must stop drinking. It is that simple. The difficult part
>> is the next question : How to do that. That is purpose of groups like
>> AA,
>> to address the how. Any one attending (almost) has already determined
>> that they have a problem and must stop drinking, they are searching for a
>> way to stop.
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