Re: "Troops Begin Combat Operations" in "Battle of New Orleans" as "Slidell Mayor Threatens Armed Standoff with FEMA" & Corporate Mercenaries Head to New Orleans

Are you getting the news you want? I'm not. Are you getting answers to
the questions you have after reading the news? I'm not. I spend about 3
hours a day reading the news on the internet and I'm not getting the
full story. I know I'm not getting the full story because I have
unanswered questions. You would think the 3 hours of reading the news
would leave me without unanswered questions wouldn't you. Was what
happened in the superdome and convention center ethenic cleansing, well
probably not. But the people were held there against their will. There
were armed guards posted to keep them from leaving the area and there
were guards posted on the bridge out of the city. The police and NG
didn't patrol inside at night and so far more than 40 mutilated bodies
have been found inside the convention center. Think I'm makeing it up?
Read this from UPI. That's "United Press International" not "Crazy
Left Wing News."


NEW ORLEANS, Sept. 6 (UPI) -- Troops scouring New Orleans for survivors
and victims reported finding at least 40 mutilated bodies in the
Convention Center refugee center.

Arkansas National Guardsman Mikel Brooks told the New Orleans Times
Picayune many of the dead were elderly, or showed signs of trauma.

"There's another one in the freezer, a 7-year-old with her throat cut,"
he said.


A 7 year old with her throat cut, at least 40 mutilated bodies. And
you're saying excessive hyperbole is not helpful? Pray tell what would
be a non excessive reaction to this?

Quite frankly, you don't know what you're talking about, because I
don't know what I'm talking about, because the stories are not out
there. Just bits and pieces that can be picked up between the lies and
the propaganda. That's what I learned after about a year of reading the
news on the internet 3 hours or more a day. No matter how much you read
you just can't seem to get the whole story. And the main stream media
usually doesn't even get beyond a watered down, sweetened up summery.




Shava_X wrote:

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> i realize the choice of words are not Yours. Who ever chose those words,
> choose poorly. The military is support the local police and rescue units.
> That is all. The only situation in which they are permitted to shoot are
> same ones in which the police are permitted to shoot. "combat" is not a
> good description of the shootings i have heard of. They are the typical
> situations the cops are getting into : Looters be spotted and shooting to
> cover their escape. That, in my opinion does not rise to a level where
> "combat" would be an appropriate term.
>
> Additionally, no one has yet been forcible removed for New Orleans. This
> afternoon, the mayor of New Orleans issued an order to forcible remove any
> one who does not voluntarily leave. The cops have not carried out that
> order yet. They say they going to get every person who is willing to
> leave out first. Since that is the method the cops are using, that will
> also be what the military units supporting them will do as well. Hence,
> the forced removal is not a Federal order, it is a local order. It just
> happens that the local authorities have requested help from the military.
> If the bulk of the state's Nation Guard were not in Iraq, it would
> probably be mostly National Guard, not active duty military, supporting
> the police.
>
> What is going on in New Orleans in Not Class Warfare. Looters are taking
> consumer electronics items for 2 simple reasons : they are easy to get to
> (not locked up in a vault) and they are easy to fence. The hyperbole
> about wealth being 'forcibly taken' is not useful. The DVD players on Wal
> Mart shelves are not there because a rich person took it from someone else
> at gun point or under threat of force. That the economic system in the
> U.S. (the 'west' in general) is unjust in numerous aspects is accepted,
> but that is not why some people in New Orleans are looting (when i use the
> term "looting" i am not referring to people who take food or water). It
> is common criminality.
>
> Again, let me stress, excessive hyperbole is NOT helpful. The people at
> the Convention Center absolutely were NOT Held Captive in any way shape or
> form. To suggest so, and to compare it to genocide or ethnic cleansing is
> absolutely obscene. There were no armed guards, no government control of
> any kind keeping them there. They stuck there for the same reason people
> were trapped at the Super Dome, because they surrounded by flood water (at
> the Super Dome the parking lot was roughly waist deep), and even if they
> were to try and wade out, there was no place they could reasonable go on
> their own. What differentiates the Convention Center from the Super Dome
> is that some how, no one at FEMA or DHS new there were people at the
> Convention Center until reporters pointed it out. The people there were
> not rounded up at gun point and selected for execution or exile because of
> ethnic difference. They went there voluntarily, and were then lost
> temporarily in a very poorly run bureaucracy. Bush may be attempting to
> spin the events on the Gulf Coast, or to point attention away from
> problems, but He is failing. FEMA's ineptitude, and the overall poor
> handling of this catastrophe is not escaping the news, except in the minds
> of people who automatically assume that the news must be censored.

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