Re: "Love Your Enemies"


A Spirtual Journey wrote:
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> > A Spirtual Journey wrote:
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> >> > , .
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> >> >> > > > hmmmm a Messiah? theres been many avatars throughout the ages and no
> >> >> > doubt there have been those just as wise (tho perhaps female) that dont
> >> >> > have the great PR that Jesus has. the problem with most avatars is
> >> >> > that its not they who do the reporting in their own words on what they
> >> >> > mean by what they purportedly say and do. its usually their followers
> >> >> > who tell the stories and produce the spin that turns a personal
> >> >> > experience with the avatar into a generic religion.
> >> >> > i studied under a guru for awhile ... he was suppose to be an avatar, a
> >> >> > God sent teacher and all that jazz but by the time i got thru with my
> >> >> > experince with that "perfect master" the only thing of real worth i
> >> >> > learned was ... Oz never did give nothing to the tin man that he didnt,
> >> >> > didnt already have.
> >> >> >
> >> >> "generic religion", indeed, for such are grounded in mere words, that
> >> >> which i prefer to call but "colored marks written on a dead tree", but
> >> >> those who have "experienced The Messiah and The Power WHO
> >> >> resurrected Him", they have a Faith grounded in reality, and that which
> >> >> is real, that which is experienced, is Truth, and Truth is
> >> >> forever.......period.......
> >> >>
> >> >> and such Faith will not create a religious system.......period.......
> >> >>
> >> >> religion crucified The Messiah and today religions yet seek to
> >> >> crucify The Truth.......period.......religion is Anti-Messiah!
> >> >>
> >> >> thankfully Truth can not be crucified for Truth rises above all!
> >> >>
> >> >> HalleluYah!
> >> >>
> >> >> it is a good thing to "share those things we have seen and heard",
> >> >> that which we have experienced. thanks for sharing.
> >> >>
> >> >> peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > francis? you speak of your faith as being grounded in reality. how
> >> > nice for you but are you suggesting that your faith is any more
> >> > grounded in reality than someone elses? or that your deity is more
> >> > imbued with Truth than someOne else deity? or that your experience
> >> > with Truth is somehow more real than someOne else experience with
> >> > Truth? are those who worship no deity at all experiencing less Truth
> >> > than you are? facts are facts but Truth ... spiritual Truth manifests
> >> > differently for and by each individual. you can play the role of Oz if
> >> > you like ... but i already have a heart and a brain and courage and you
> >> > can tell Glenda that i already know how to get Home. thanks for
> >> > sharing.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > peace as there is no war between the spiritual and the carnal.
> >> >
> >
> >> as to "Oz".. whose playing? could it be you?
> >
> > i'm not the one who came on this message board posting as if i were
> > revealing some sanctified message from God. pretentious pseudeo
> > profundities fashioned by you for your own self agrandizement. i
> > sought to be accepting and lighten up this thread but you apparently
> > simply can't resist enthroning yourself.
> >>
> >> one thing sure, The Life is not a game!
> >
> > one thing for sure ... you're not the one to tell me what my life is.
> >>
> >> indeed Spiritual Truth is manifest thru experience.......
> >> yet which spirit is manifesting what?
> >>
> >> truth or lying wonders or?
> >>
> >> Truth is not a game of multiple choice.
> >
> > and who determines what Truth is? you? who ARE you anyway? or should
> > i say ... who do you think you are?
> >>
> >> experience might be shared in different ways and with different
> >> words yet The Life will bear witness to Spirit and Truth.
> >
> > and that means what? is that code for "I refuse to answer the
> > questions put to me so i'll post more sanctimonious spew."?
> >>
> >> "peace as there is no war between the spiritual and the carnal."
> >>
> >> sharing is a good thing, indeed, even when there is no agreement.......
> >>
> >> peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis
> >> there are spiritual wars and there are carnal wars.
> >> yet in all wars there is a spirit that leads the way.
> >> especially in the on-going war against The Truth.
> >
> > you may be at war with yourself but thats your problem ... not mine.
> > the God concept i reach for (tho certainly not always successfully) is
> > harmonious with the Self. Self/self ... Loved/beLoved.
> >
> > i notice you didnt answer a single one of my questions so perhaps i
> > must assume that you're hiding typical religious fundy bigotry behind
> > all your high holy rhetoric. i dont know if you know this or not but
> > rainbow isnt a Christian organization and Jesus isnt the only deity or
> > avatar believed in, honored or worshipped in rainbowland. your concept
> > of heaven might be of a Christian exclusivity club but rainbow doesnt
> > work that way.
> >
> is there a rule that i must answer all your questions?
> maybe i could not answer, did not recognize or simply did not see your question.
>
> The Life is what matters, not mere words that remain but "colored marks written
> on a dead tree", unless experience allows you to receive them in your heart.
>
> ex: "The Hopi Declaration of Peace"
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> It is in the Power of the True Hope People
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> to unify the minds and spirits of all true
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> peace seeking peoples of the earth...
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> "Hopi" means "Peaceful People"
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> And the truest and greatest power
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> is the strength of Peace
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> because Peace is the Will
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> of The Great Spirit.
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> But do not think that just because
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> the True Hope People have been told
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> by the Great Spirit never to take up arms
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> that the True Hopi People will not fight
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> and even die for what we know
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> to be the right way of Life.
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> The True Hope People know how to fight
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> without killing or hurting.
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> The True Hope People know how to fight
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> with Truth and Positive Force In
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> The Light of The Great Spirit.
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>
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> The True Hopi People know how to fight
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> and educate by clear thoughts, good pictures,
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> and by carefully chosen words.
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> The True Hope People know how to show
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> to all the world's children the True Way of Life
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> by setting an example
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> and by working and communicating
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> in a way that reaches the minds and hearts
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> of all people who are truly seeking
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> the methods of a simple and Spiritual Life
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> which is the only Life that will survive...
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> and i took the liberty of adding:
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> ....... Forever .......
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> that declaration is in perfect harmony with both The Life and The Teachings of
> The Messiah. and yet, the Hopi people?
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> they have all but given up and given in to the pressures of the us of a
> governmental authorities and those among them who love this wicked
> world(babylon).
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> and today they are of those who sacrifice their children unto the "god" of
> education;-((((((
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> and the words of their declaration? beautiful, heart warming, yet till the words
> are experienced, they remain but "colored marks written on a dead tree".
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> Only The Great Spirit can engraft words of Life in ones heart, free from the
> mindless imaginations that rule this wicked world(babylon).
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> peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis

And when was the last time you spoke to the Hopi people about all of
this, I have done many sweats up on First Mesa, and never heard of you.
I think you have a real ego trip going there. What do you want, some
kind of pat on the back. Maybe prophet status. Or maybe you're just
full of ***, and can't handle just being you. Get off you soap box and
be a real person, or is that just beyond you egotistical illussions.

GraayWolf

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