Re: the world is upside down
- From: "The_Unforgiven (The Subtle Troll)" <graaywolf@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 3 Aug 2005 12:19:22 -0700
-ammitusen-@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> That Guy wrote:
> > "Sanity Clause" <Sanity-Clause@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:8m2Ge.500804$cg1.292870@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > -ammitusen-@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Terry Richards wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>-ammitusen-@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>too often "justice" is served on the
> > >>>>wrong one.
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>7% of death row is supposedly innocent
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>/|\
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 7% too many. to me, the whole point of the death penalty is not about
> > >> "justice" or "revenge" ... its about removing a severe threat in a
> > >> humane way. if you euthanize the wrong dog you have not removed the
> > >> threat. its a waste to kill a healthy animal and waste is "sin".
> > >>
> > >> keep the monsters lock up? well ... okay but its not humane to keep a
> > >> rabid critter caged with no hope for a cure and no hope for release.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Looks good and humane in theory, but in practice mistakes are made.
> >
> > Agreed.
> > I believe that anyone who supports the death penalty without insisting on
> > reforms that would ensure no innocent ever gets wrongly executed again is no
> > better than any of the murderers on death row.
>
>
> apparently That Guy has only reads the parts of my post that allow him
> to jump up on a moral pedastal and look down from on high on someone
> who may have a more redical point of view. i have suggested that the
> prison system certainly needs reform and tho That Guy may be talking
> about "penalties" ... i am not. punshiment and the threat thereof
> obviously has not stopped crime. imprisonment, in fact, not meant to
> stop crime but only to punish and warehouse those who commit crimes for
> some period of time. after that period of time the criminal is set
> free, meaner and more adept at crime than he/she was before they went
> in. i suggest that criminality is a symptom of a deeper problem within
> the individual and within society. i suggest that crime be looked upon
> as a symptom and the individual be helped to discover and heal that
> deeper problem that causes the criminal behavior. prisons, IMO, should
> be replaced with psychiatric care faculties and inmates be given a
> chance at a real life instead of just punished. pyschiatric treatment,
> appropriate meds, education and after release housing, job placement
> and psychiatric follow up and counciling. the prisons system houses
> large numbers of people who should be in mental institutions as it is
> and these people get no treatment and no therapy. their
> mental/emotional problems are made worse by their confinement in the
> hostile prison environment and their proclivity for violence escalates
> with every punishment. perhaps with an eye looking more towards rehab
> then towards punishment the revolving door wouldnt spin so fast. but
> That Guy hasnt bothered to read these particulars of my posts or if he
> does he accuses me of sarcasm and of lieing. appparently That Guy
> thinks the way the privatized prison industry keeps that revolving door
> spinning with the same inmates incarerated again and again is a good
> idea. well... the prison contruction bizness is booming and bail
> bondsmen and lawyers are having a field day but more funding is spent
> on prisons than on schools and thats a sad commentary for any country.
> and apparently That Guy thinks its okay that the prison industry sets
> dangerous sexual predators loose into our neighborhoods every day, sick
> baby rapers free to roam around doing horrendous damage as they please
> to the innocent until they get caught AGAIN. these insane people are
> set free because their punishment is done, their time is served but
> nothing is done to change what they are. do you understand WHAT they
> are?! but i suppose i must be morally corrupt because i think its
> stupid, dangerous and cruel to keep the violently insane alive, that i
> think those monsters that rape, torture, mutilate and revele in blood
> and killing should be euthanized as any rabid dog would be. i'm the
> one guilty of murderous intent because i think the funds spent on
> building and maintaining expensive maximum security prisons to
> warehouse people who will never again see the light of day or
> contribute in anyway to society would be better spent on healing the
> curable. okay, i'm a bad person ... a very bad person ... evil evil me
> ... none the less ... if i ever caught some pervert trying stick it to
> a child i'd blow his poor insane brains out. and then i'd cry ...
> just like i cry when i have to dispatch some water moc thats found a
> sunning spot on my front doorstep. i dont hate the water moc. i dont
> want to kill the water moc. but the water moc is very dangerous,
> aggressive and deadly poisonous to me and mine and ya gotta do what ya
> gotta do.
>
> anyway That Guy ... have a good time up there in your ivory tower of
> ultimate truth and supreme morality. how funny tho, that you defend
> the rights of torturing murderers and sympathize with baby rapers but
> condemn me as a murderer without a trial, without even considering the
> bulk of my evidense. i guess a single and simple minded version of
> what you think i mean by what i say is enough to convict.
Don't take it personal I think "That Guy" just likes a good debate, I
don't see him as a person that's full of himself, I just think he's
into debating issues which is and ok thing to do. It stimulates the
brain cells, And in my case I need all the brain cell stimulation I can
get.
That Guy has a pretty good moral compass and is passionate in his
beleifs and there ids nothing wrong with that.
Rob, <AKA: GraayWolf, AKA: Lobo, AKA: Cpt. Burnout, AKA: The
Unforgiven>
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