Re: Druid Heals...
- From: IYM <"S U N risr"@optonline.net>
- Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:10:30 -0400
On 26-07-2010 15:42:46, IYM wrote:Zil wrote:IYM <"S U N risr"@optonline.net> wrote:I'm the OP and figured I'd just follow up with some info...I haven'tHi -I'm coming to this discussion late because I was away on holiday last
I'm leveling a druid kitty and he just dinged 60 last night and is in
the Outlands. My guild is aways in desperate need of heals, so I've
decided to dual spec him as resto. My question is that I've heard some
different takes as far as the add-on healing interfaces. Priests and
shammy's I've all talked to seem to almost all go with heal-bot, while
druids seem all over the place, with many preferring Vuhdo. As someone
who has never healed before with either, what do the tree experts in
here recommend as far as an interface?
This druid will not be healing PvP as far as any current intention of
mine, but 5-mans and eventually raids on a PvE server. As I mentioned,
my only experience that comes close to healing is using Decursive with
my mage and I absolutely love hitting those spots in ICC (esp the trash
mob before the Gunship on 10-man) where I get to decurse, so maybe
there's an inner healer in me, so I'd like to give it a whirl. :)
Anyway, I was a big Grid/Clique fan for ages, but then discovered
Vuhdo and haven't looked back since.
I'm usually healing with my priest, but I've also got a Shaman healer
and reecently specced my druid resto to try out druid healing. I've
been more than happy with Vuhdo for all of those classes.
I especially like the hot timer bars that vuhdo can display (up to 3
bars per toon) which works great for all those druid hots.
In my opinion Vuhdo is easier to configure than Grid (at least when I
last used Grid) and more flexible in many areas (e.g. you can have
multiple icons displayed for debuffs, show target & target-of-target,
show your bars for your focus, set private tanks, have separate panels
for whatever classes etc you want, etc, etc). Of course, Grid may
well have evolved a lot since I last used it (about a year ago), and
may be able to do many of these things now, I don't know.
been able to play my druid a lot due to time and ICC nights with my
mage, but I did nervously run through some instances. I started tree
healing at lvl 68 and now am at 70. The first instance I pugged using
LFG tool (Hellfire Ramparts) did not go so well. I was not geared
right, kept running out of mana and was trying to heal using the
portraits. Tank didn't die, but I lost a few dps here and there. After
that, I hooked up with a good druid tree from my guild who inspected me,
had me make a bunch of changes to my gear and walked me through how she
had Vuhdo set up and wow, what a difference. I had fun after that
hooking up with some guildies alts who were all 68 -70 and healing my
way though the heroic blood furnace instance in Outlands, and the
regular DK & Nexus in Northrend. However, these were not true tests for
me as we had a level 80 tank, so my margin for error was, ummm... a bit
higher (although he was a bear druid who never tanked, and was tanking
using his kitty gear so he was taking damage, but still - an 80 is an
80). But this still allowed me to get a feel for healing, as the rest
of the party was my level and they were taking some decent damage. I
still am healing without wild growth or nourish, so I'll have to see
what those will do when I get them. Anyway, my basic observances of a
first time healer were:
a) I have a tendency, esp right now, to have my eyeballs buried in the
heals bars and not on the screen or what's going on around me so much.
I hope that'll come in time, but it's a good thing I ran through these
dungeons so much as a casting dps that I know them well.
b) As my first alt, I am having the stupidity / habit of hitting greed
on everything as that's what I'm used to doing with my mage who doesn't
need anything in these instances except the frosts. So it was good I
was with my guildies who kept giving me the good healing gear I mucked
up and missed.
c) I can see a healers frustrations when the tank takes off without
letting you loot. As a dps, if I caught up a few seconds late to the
next pull, it was no big deal - not so as a healer, and if he wasn't an
80, we might have had some issues.
d) I must say that there was that "ahhh, I understand now what they
meant" when they say there is no spell rotation other than your initial
heals and that it's a "feel" thing. :)
All in all, it was fun, although not as relaxing as dps ....right now
anyway. Now, I just need to run a bunch over and over... :)
Please post link to the setup you use as druid healer
i have just startet one lev 37 for now and i go
dual spec with lev 40.
Wii have no healer i my guild so this is a must
I am, by all means possible as noob of a beginner there is on druid heals, so there are a lot better people in here to ask! lol
BUT - since you did ask, and other pro trees in here might be able to help me as well, so... I'm lvl 70, so I don't have all my spells yet.(missing nourish and wild growth, but should have them soon. I'm duel spec'ed as kitty/tree, use Vuhdoo as my heal interface and am using the standard resto starter build you can find online (11/0/60) as my problems still are mana and spellpower. My gear is set up so I have about 10K mana. That should be enough for my level instances (nexus, UK), but I find I still get dangerously close to running low on boss fights, as I get a little antsy and I may be throwing heals out I don't need to, but I think that'll come in time as I get used to how much heals I need to send and not waste mana.
1) getting the timing between healing the tank after he pulls so that he doesn't take too much damage before I get the heals on him and too early so I don't get the aggro.
2) Forgetting this isn't my mage and using the druid's biggest advantage - casting heals on the run...
3) As stated before and goes along with #2 - stop staring 100% at bars during fights... Perfect example from last night. Healing through nexus and at last fight with dragon. Healing everyone, things going fine, but all a sudden I'm finding me healing the crap out of myself and it's getting worse...why?.....Ahhhh! Duh!! - <smacking himself> got to either move or jump during that fight...
Biggest enlightenment as a noob healer:
You can really see and interpret just watching the bars/damage what's going on with regards to players (not environment). You expect tank damage, but why is this other guy taking so much and these guys aren't?....My assumption was right on the money when I pulled my eyes off the bars - DK tank taking normal damage, hunter and mage not taking any or a tiny smidge here and there, and ahhh - yup - there's the pally dps standing right next to the tank facing the boss... lol
I can see how healers can easily decide to let a dps die. If he's going to be standing there doing something stupid, I'm not wasting mana on him that others can be using...
I know - you healers are reading this with a big grin, aren't ya? :)
The trade off is that as a main dps, I have even more insight and appreciation for heals than I ever did. I think if more dps healed with an alt, or at least tried it, they would not be as reckless many times and just expect the healer to heal them through it... :)
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