Re: Gold spamming more evident

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"Steve Kaye" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:h480ps$u0m$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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"djarvinen" <djarvinen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:6a5950c2-5c94-4692-b37d-3d7ddf551758@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

What is really irritating to me is the the gold spam/sellers model
must work (or it would have stopped by now). That means there are a
LOT of dorks out there who have bought all their gear/levels/whatever,
and some of those dorks are ganking me, as well as driving the price
up on items in the AH.

If you are one of those dorks who buy gold/gear/levels, I hope you die
a horrible death in the Bog of Eternal Stench.
If you generate more on the AH than you spend driving up prices makes little difference to you.
If anything it makes the higher level vendor items more approachable.
Higher prices only really affect those without much generation capacity,
which reinforces the temptation to buy gold.
Take those higher level disenchanters looting the AH of low and mid level items,
driving up the prices so lowbies can't get cheap greens. Who are the disenchanters
selling the resulting items at a markup to? low level enchanters.
Where do the low level enchanters get their gold?

The low level enchanters are free to earn gold from the AH in the same way as the higher level enchanters. I levelled my enchanting using the AH and made more money than I spent. I just bought what I could and DE'd them and sold the materials. When I felt that I had a big enough buffer I bought to level enchanting until my money dropped too low. I then started the cycle again, buying to sell then buying to level etc.

Who bought the materials?

Either people who didn't know that it's cheaper to buy greens than materials or people in a rush enough not to care. There are a number of blue crafted items that create 1 dream shard 100% of the time that people sell on the AH for less than the price of a dream shard. I don't need Auctioneer to tell me that, I can find out from WoWhead.


There is another aspect of the gold sellers , the gold they sell allows
players to push up prices, which feeds back to the sellers.
But the sellers want gold and have bulk items , probably from bot farming.
Their need for gold would tend to force the price down, the gold pixels being more
attractive than the green and blue pixels

I'm not defending gold sellers/buyers - I'm just saying that the people who buy the enchanting materials on the AH are free to buy the greens instead. If everyone did it there would be a point where the price of a green item wouldn't be less than the DE materials but that point will never be reached as there are always some people prepared to do what others will not. In this case it is people who are prepared to spend 30 minutes a day scanning / buying / deing / selling and those that are not.


If blizzard really , really, frowned on gold selling it would be a bold flashing warning
and acceptance button that buying gold would get account banned at the first login screen.
Every time. Not buried in the EULA that most people only read after.

Suppose that they really, really, think that everything in the EULA and ToS is as important as not buying / selling gold? Wouldn't they put it all on the log in screen and make you push that button every time? People aren't any more likely to read it than they are now. WAR did that IIRC and I didn't read the EULA more than once.

steve.kaye
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