Re: Holy Priest at 70 - info sharing plx
- From: Catriona R <catrionarNOSPAM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 19:15:43 +0100
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:50:49 -0700, BLMX <junkbin5-02@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Howdy Gang. I'm interested in hearing & sharing opinions on Holy
Priest stuff. Here's some topics, please add your thoughts. Thx.
Talents
Currently my spec is the cookie-cutter 23/38/0, works fine.
I'm thinking about trying a 16/45 build... 16 being Wand, 5/5 Silent
Res., ImpFort, Inner Focus & Meditation. 45 is every Holy talent,
ignoring the damage & PVP related talents. The most difficult choice
seems to be the last 2 points: Reach, 20% cheaper prayers, or 3/5
(instead of maxed) Spi Guidance.
Hmm Holy Reach I think isn't worth the points; if it worked on dispell
magic etc as well, it'd be great for those aoe fights where you really want
to be more than 30 yards from the boss, but as it is, I've never bothered
with it. 20% cheaper prayers can be a good one, I used to have 1 point in
it but dropped it recently to try holy concentration, and think I'll stick
with that. Maxed spiritual guidance I'd say is essential, if you have a
decent amount of spirit - my own spirit is lowish but still high enough to
make a significant difference, especially with imp divine spirit.
I've never had LightWell or CoH. LW seems like the Holy talent that
ppl love2hate. Still, for one point it seems to have a fair practical
value - if nothing else I can say, "Hey you died because you didn't
click the LW, man!" :P CoH, I'm looking forward to trying.
Opinions on these talents, the spec in general? What do you like &
why?
Never tried either, but the fact that lightwell breaks on damage really
makes it pointless - I did actually use one on my rogue in Karazhan last
weekend, on Curator, and got one tick before it got broken again, sigh.
Utterly worthless in my opinion, maybe there's some situations where it's
handy but to me it looks like it's only made so warlocks can lifetap
without you having to manually renew them ;-) CoH could be nice but I just
can't bring myself to drop imp DS to try it.
My own spec is a fairly cookie cutter 23/38/0 - for a long time I had a
couple of damage talents but respecced to a more raid-friendly build to go
with our Gruul attempts; having a paladin tank who dies kinda fast made me
realise inspiration might be a good idea!
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxT0zhxzbZfLtcc0qVhc is my current build,
really wish I could spare a few more points as I miss surge of light a lot,
and would love full empowered healing, but it just can't be done without
losing imp DS, and that gives me I think 44-45 +healing, which is useful
indeed.
Gear
I've been 70 for only a few weeks, so running around in Blues (and a
green or 2). Did Kara once (2bosses) got nada :( Haven't grinded
significant rep to get any special rewards yet. I did pickup the Mace
& Shoulder from Mech last night and I have the Imb.NetherWeave stuff
from my wife, the tailor. Once I get the mats together she's gonna
make the WhiteMend set. After that, don't know. Currently, iirc, I
have +891 heal, a little low but a fair amount of mp5. I haven't paid
for any AH gear or enchants or gems that cost more than 3-4G. What
gear/enchants did you make it a priority to seek out at this point in
your priest's life?
If you can pick up tailoring yourself, it's very much worth it - I wasn't
planning to, but in the end realised that the primal mooncloth set was just
too good to not have. For other gear, if you can get enough groups, I very
much recommend going for Keepers of Time exalted and the bracers from
there; the ones from Maiden in Karazhan are better, but not by much, and it
may take a while for them to drop. Also while in BM you may well see a very
nice healing trinket or a good healing staff - I had both for a while.
Shadow Lab contains both the shoulders and robe from the Hallowed set, well
worth going for, especially as Lower City rep gives a nice trinket too.
Your healing isn't bad for having just reached 70, a little more is always
good, I think I was at a little over 1k when I first tried Karazhan. A
priest friend told me to aim for 1500 +heal and then to stack up the mp5,
which is what I did, while picking up some more +heal along the way, and it
worked nicely for me. When you're slightly more geared, have a go at the
easier heroics, like Mech and Slave pens - the badges give very nice
rewards for how easy they are to obtain; even after having got a load of
stuff from Karazhan I'm still wearing the badge reward ring, and I only
replaced the necklace last week with one from Gruul.
Gemswise, when you get good items that you'll keep for a while, go for
royal nightseyes as much as possible; they're slightly over budget as they
really ought to be 9 healing and 1.5 mp5, but Blizz rounded up to 2 mp5, so
making them very powerful indeed. for cheaper items then the green gems are
fine, +heal and mp5 are best to go with where you can as those are the most
important stats for healing. For enchants go with what you feel is worth
having - I now have all the expensive enchants as pretty much all my gear
is epic, but I used cheaper enchants or just didn't enchant items which I
knew I could obtain upgrades for.
Technique
Grid & Clique. (BTW is there a way to show pets on Grid?) Technique-
wise, nothing fancy for me, just begin cast/cancel cast as needed.
Inner Focus after Clearcasts, the basics. In Kara I noticed the other
priest was PoM the tank before every fight and using downranked GH. I
have not setup any downranking yet, does everyone use that? I thought
I read something about downranking being nerfed recently. If so,
where does it balance out? I guess it has to be better/more efficient
than a standard heal (which I currently do alot of). Maybe because of
EmpHealing? What rank do you use, can anyone offer numbers to support
the practice.
If you have quite a lot of +heal downranking is still efficient, yes,
because you're not wasting mana on big overheals. I normally use Gheal
ranks 3 and 7, rank 3 normally and rank 7 when the tank is taking big hits
and needs the extra power. The higher your +heal the more you'll find
downranking being attractive - if you find you're overhealing a lot, and
not just when there's another healer who's beating you to the heals, then
downranking can save you a fair chunk of mana; my Gheal rank 3 costs about
the same mana as a flash heal but heals for a *lot* more.
A nice way to check out mana efficiency is to look at
http://priestheal.googlepages.com/priest_heal.htm - that'll give you a
rough idea of how much heal you get for your mana, and generally if you
have high +heal the lower ranks can be a lot more efficient. However not to
the point that a big heal isn't still useful at times; it's just down to
experience which to use really. I know a lot of priests use three ranks of
Gheal, I prefer two for simplicity but everyone has their own methods.
PoM on the tank before a pull is a good way to let them have a little more
aggro by reducing the amount of healing needed straight after the pull - I
don't bother with ordinary trash but for bosses and trash that hits hard
it's well worth it. Likewise I'll shield before the pull on hard-hitting
mobs; not otherwise, as it can hit rage generation a bit, but if the mob
hits hard enough that the shield's gone in one hit then it's not going to
cause that much of a problem :-)
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