Re: EA's "Project 10 Dollars"



"The alMIGHTY N" <natlee75@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:a9adba1e-d0cc-484b-99c7-3e9dde64e332@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On Feb 23, 5:26 pm, "Tom" <no...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Morgan" <nos...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

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> The alMIGHTY N wrote:
>> On Feb 22, 12:32 pm, Morgan <nos...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> The alMIGHTY N wrote:
>>>> On Feb 20, 7:26 pm, Morgan <nos...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> Tom wrote:
>>>>>>> The company has sold one copy. If a customer wants to sell that >>>>>>> one
>>>>>>> copy on then there should be no issue at all. If the customer >>>>>>> has
>>>>>>> already paid for the right to access DLC (DLC available on >>>>>>> release
>>>>>>> day
>>>>>>> is morally suspect IMHO to start with) then those rights should >>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> passed on with the product. There is no other product on the >>>>>>> market
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> I can think of where a publisher/manufacturer can impose
>>>>>>> restrictions on
>>>>>>> resale.
>>>>>> The issue is not about whether one can sell their used game, >>>>>> there's
>>>>>> no law against it.
>>>>> I didn't suggest that it was.
>>>>> >It is simply about (EA in this case) charging the
>>>>>> used game purchaser a fee for having access to the DLC that the
>>>>>> original buyer didn't have to pay.
>>>>> Seeing as it was part of the original product then it should be >>>>> passed
>>>>> on with the rest of the content. The fact that it has to be
>>>>> downloaded
>>>>> separately is immaterial, it is still part of the product.
>>>> Who's to say that it was part of the original product?
>>> The code needed to access it is part of the original product, it's
>>> inside the DVD case.

>> That's irrelevant when you're talking about a one-time use code.

> My point is that they're marketing it as extra content when it isn't. > The
> code isn't unlocking a free gift, it's unlocking part of the product.

Well, for example, the extra content I got for ME2 wasn't on the disc for
use with a code. When I sued the code, it gave me a link to download from
Bioware/EA those extras. In fact, the code I use for at least one of the
items came from my purchase of Dragon Age amd it was downloaded as it wasn't
past of some unlockable element already on the ME2 discs..





>>> This is EA basically trying to squeeze money out of people, whether >>> it's
>>> fair or not is a matter of opinion. Take Shayle from DA and the Marc
>>> chap fro ME2, both were blatantly developed as part of the original >>> game
>>> but deliberately marketed as "extra" content.

>> I'm not sure who you're referring to in either case, but I'm guessing
>> you mean Zaeed Massani in the case of Mass Effect 2. There's no reason
>> to assume that he was developed as part of the original game.

> Apart from the fact that he is integrated seamlessly into the game,

>> Considering that he doesn't have the same interaction on the Normandy
>> as any of the other characters,

> He seemed to have the same level of interaction as most of the other > team
> members, you can chat to him, find out about his past, and perform his
> loyalty mission. Apart from Miranda the other's don't really do much
> more. There is also the fact that other team memerbs interact with > him
> in conversations on missions.

SPOILER WARNING:

His level of interaction is much less than that of the other members. Other
than his loyalty mission, you get nothing more out of him except the same
exact comments reflecting on his trophies, etc when you visit him in his
quarters and nothing changes with that as the game progresses like it does
with the others. He also doesn't give upgrades.

He can't since you can't actually talk to him to ask him what upgrade
he has to offer! :-)

Exactly why I didn't say I asked or talked to him about anything :-)


> > it's much more likely that at some
>> point well into the development of the game they decided to create a
>> bonus character.

>> Note that there's another slot in the mirror opposite position of him
>> on the team select screen.

> I take it you've not completed the game yet? This slot will be filled.

Not true, I am fairly certain you can finish the game without using that
character as when you acquire that character, you get a certain device that
used in activating that mission. I am also unsure, but from that aspect of
the game, it seems you could skip a few characters and play out the end. I
didn't do it because I don't know whether or not any or all of these
characters will carry over into ME3 as part of the equation or be just good
or bad memories like it was from ME1 to 2 for most of those that were in
ME1. Whether or not these characters can still be unlocked and play later
when the final mission is over, I don't know.

I wasn't talking about that slot next to Zaeed. I was talking about
the empty space to the right of Jack, the position mirror opposite to
Zaeed.

I'm curious if there's anyone who has played the game *without*
activating the Cerberus Network. I'm interested in knowing if the
squad selection screen has some sort of marker in Zaeed's spot (like
you do if you simply haven't gotten to the point where Zaeed drops
into your lap) or if it's empty like the same spot on the other side
of the screen.

Maybe it is different on the 360 version, because there is no extra slot next to Jack on the PC version. Altogether, there are 11 members (including Zaeed). (Left to right, Zaeed, Legion, Samara, Tali, Mordin, Garrus, Miranda, Grunt, Jacob, Thane and Jack)

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