Re: OT: Studios getting desperate: Blu-Ray in a car?



"The alMIGHTY N" <natlee75@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:da138603-7e3d-4c0a-ae1e-374a0f12081a@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On Jan 5, 5:59 pm, "Tom" <no...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"The alMIGHTY N" <natle...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in messagenews:fa7ae5cb-cdd4-4360-8380-710547fd9d50@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx





> On Jan 5, 1:46 am, liturgy <> wrote:
>> On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 19:36:49 +0900, furious gibbon

>> <thegibbons...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >Jordan wrote:
>> >> I got this survey in e-mail today, the folks over at AVS are >> >> already
>> >> talking about it:

>> >>http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1103735

>> >> Here are the questions in case the survey gets pulled, I think #5 >> >> is
>> >> the most telling... Disney is essentially saying "Ok, Ok, we know
>> >> nobody is buying our movies on Blu-Ray...

>> >my girlfriend paid a ridiculous $42 (aud) for chronicles of narnia
>> >yesterday. We watched it last night and it does look pretty damn >> >good,
>> >even she said 'we can't go back to DVD now'. And this is running on a
>> >32" 768p lcd, i'd imagine it'd look better on a bigger 1080p set. But
>> >many people can't tell/don't care what the resolution difference is, >> >and
>> >if they see a movie like this on blu ray for $42, and the dvd version
>> >next to it for less than $20, which will they choose? Actually for a
>> >movie like this they'll probably just go and rent it for $5 but >> >that's
>> >beside the point.

>> >I also bought terminator 2 blu ray ($32), now i have the original
>> >theatrical dvd, the ultimate edition dvd, and the director's cut blu
>> >ray. This is my favorite movie so i don't mind buying it 3 times >> >over,
>> >but the difference between the blu ray and the dvd version is pretty
>> >minor. As a price comparison, i reckon i could get the dvd ultimate
>> >edition now for under $10.

>> >When you're talking $400 for a blu ray player (or $700 for a PS3), >> >plus
>> >the ridiculous price and *** range of blu ray discs, it's no wonder
>> >noone is interested

>> Except for those nifty boxed sets you sometimes just have to buy, if
>> you're not the type who has to buy every movie you watch on your home
>> player, do what I do. Download those movies in HD and watch them that
>> way with your 360 or PS3.

> This assumes that a person is willing to break the law to save $30. I
> dare say that most people would just as soon stick with DVD.

>> If you have a 360, most of the HD movies/TV shows are available in the
>> WMV format, so you don't have to convert those MKV container files
>> which are encoded in h264/x264.

> The quality isn't quite the same, though.

>> Then, either get the movie/TV show
>> file on a big enough USB memstick and watch off that on your 360, or
>> use TVersity to stream/transcode from your PC to your 360.

> If you get a full 1080p rip of a Blu-Ray disc, you're looking at 8GB
> easily (and that's just for the "normal" length movies).

> 720p rips are more manageable but few people have USB memory sticks
> that can handle that size.

> Further, there's the issue of file system format. The Playstation 3
> uses FAT32 (not sure what the Xbox 360 uses) and so unless you're
> planning on running the movie off the USB stick (which would cause
> issues in playback quality), you're out of luck there.

There's no way that the HDD in the PS3 uses FAT32 filing format as there
would be no way to write the games to the drive so one wouldn't have to play
from the game disc due to file size limitations FAT32 (4gs).

I know for a fact that the Playstation 3 uses FAT32. I tried using
files that were larger than 4GB and the Playstation 3 couldn't handle
them. When I did research online about why that would be, I found out.

Regardless, what makes you think that when the Playstation 3 writes
game data to the hard drive that it's writing only one big file?

I saw your post after this one regarding HPFS and already I commented, so you can ignore my post to this particular answer from you.


The 360 uses
NTFS (IIRC) and the games I've written to the HDD have all been bigger than
6gs. I'm thinking the PS3 uses some form of HPFS which is what IBM and most
Macs system use. I don't see it using NTFS but it's possible, but I do see
it using a Linux distro filing system (ext3fs for example))



>> If you have a PS3, then there are plenty of HD movies/TV shows in the
>> AVCHD format out there as well. Then, just transfer the files from
>> your PC to your PS3 via your PS3 browser by running a simple HTTP file
>> server such as HFS on your PC and watch them right off your PS3's HDD.
>> You can use TVersity wth your PS3 as well, but why stream when you can
>> watch off your HDD?

> Again, you're stuck on Blu-Ray movie rips since they're always larger
> than 4GB (unless you're talking about lower quality "720p" (loosely
> since there's a lot of compression in television signals) HDTV
> captures of Disney movies that typically are less than 90 minutes in
> length.

> The Playstation 3 can't handle larger file sizes.

The PS3 can handle files sizes larger than that and the limitation isn't the
PS3 perse, but the filing system limitation (FAT32) as you allude to. But
it's impossible that the PS3 uses FAT32 as I pointed out above in the
ability to writing games to the HDD on the PS3.

If the Playstation 3 uses FAT32 and FAT32 doesn't handle files larger
than 4GB, the Playstation 3 doesn't handle files larger than 4GB. The
hard drive is a part of the Playstation 3 so it's tough to state that
the console as a whole doesn't have a problem. I suppose you could say
that the Playstation 3's processor doesn't have a problem.

>> Yes, most of those movies and TV shows are in 1080p.

> Actually, very few broadcasts are even 1080i. I don't think there are
> any broadcasts in 1080p (maybe football since that's a billion dollar
> business in itself). Major networks like CBS and NBC are broadcasting
> everything in 720p, though.

>> You'll find just
>> as many 720p movies/TV shows as well. Well, most of the movies
>> though, ren't in true 1080p or 720p since not too many movies, if
>> any, are shot in 16:9 aspect ratio. But you get the idea.

>> As other've pointed out, on your TV, you won't notice any difference
>> between 1080p and 720p anyway. I only get movies in 1080p just
>> because of my TV.

>> Your average and typical Blu-ray movies bitrate is in mid to high
>> 20Mbps and most of the 1080p movies I get are in low to mid 20Mbps, so
>> you don't lose out too much on the quality either. The sound quality
>> is always retained as well. Only the odd time you'll get something in
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