Re: Rumors abound that Halo 4 will be a launch title for the next generation Xbox machine

On Sep 3, 10:44 am, The alMIGHTY N <natle...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sep 1, 6:21 pm, "Nick Soapdish, Jr." <JGordon...@xxxxxxx> wrote:





On Sep 1, 12:05 pm, "Mattinglyfan" <kylerjainos...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"The alMIGHTY N" <natle...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in messagenews:17064ddb-27f2-4dda-ada9-5024da803876@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On Aug 27, 6:34 pm, "Nick Soapdish, Jr." <JGordon...@xxxxxxx> wrote:

On Aug 27, 10:49 am, The alMIGHTY N <natle...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Aug 27, 12:49 am, Jordan <lu...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Aug 26, 8:32 am, The alMIGHTY N <natle...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Of course, talks of the next console at this stage have certain
people
worried about the path of progression the current system will take
and
will certainly have the PS3 fanboys going nuts about how history is
repeating itself and we won't have anymore 360 exclusives and other
such nonsense.

Well, if the 5 year scheme of things holds true we should see the 360
starting to wind down next year as we hear more about the next Xbox
with release dates and launch schedules the year after.

Some people would have us believe that the next generation of consoles
won't arrive until 2012...

Considering the fewer number of games released so far in this
generation compared to last, why would developers want to start over
with a new console already?

The timeline isn't black and white. There's a LOT of time between now
and 2012...

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I am kind of with Nick on this one.  That doesn't make a lot of sense.- Hide quoted text -

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I'm not sure if I interpreted what he said correctly.  I thought he
was implying that it's silly to not want a console before 2012, but
based on his answer, I could've been misinterpreting.

I was simply pointing out that there are people who are of the mind
that a new console from any of the big 3 won't come out before the end
of 2012.

I don't believe this and think it would be absurd for Microsoft
especially since that would be a 7 year console lifespan when 6 or
even 5 would be good enough.

Waiting until 2012 for the Xbox720 wouldn't be absurd, because, as
I've said, HD gaming development has a ways to go before becoming as
efficient as prior generations. If the expectations for the next
generation are even greater, developers need to be able to hit the new
hardware with a well-honed development model from years of experience.


That said, there is NO reason for the Xbox 360 (or the PS3 for that
matter) to have a shortened life cycle like the original Xbox.

4 years is too short but I think even 5 years is fine. A 2011 launch
of a new Xbox branded console would be a bit of a stretch to me but I
could deal with that. I wouldn't want to have to wait until 2012,
though.


Why? Is there really a need to get a new console just for the hell of
it? I'd rather see developers get good at using what's available for
a few years, rather than have everything thrown out the window before
they get a chance to exploit it. The PC developer "arms race", where
people had to constantly buy new CPUs, graphics cards, etc., because
developers kept making games that were too inefficient to run on the
average gaming computer, has turned many a person off of PC gaming.

It
seems like at least half the games out there end up being delayed now,
meaning that there's still probably a ways to go before developers
begin to get a true grasp on developing for HD consoles.  Why would
they want to start over already for a 2010 launch?

A 2010 launch is still over 2 years out and it seems there aren't even
any exclusives lined up for the Xbox anymore.

But exclusivity isn't quite as big of a thing anymore- it's getting
the games out period. And I'm guessing that Microsoft still has some
more exclusives yet to come (Forza 3 will be good if the fanboy
rumours about over 100 tracks are true). But nowadays, developers
seem to need at least 2 years to get a game out.


The delays are more on the Playstation 3 side of things because the
Playstation 3 is such a pain in the ass to work with.

I'm seeing delays for all games, irregardless of system, nowadays. I
was counting on Just Cause 2 coming out this month, but looks like
that's not happening.................

If I were a
developer, I wouldn't be happy about a new console just for the sake
of a new console, but if Sony were to release a new console that was
more powerful than the PS3 and, most importantly, easier to work with,
I would much rather deal with that.

If the console-
makers are smart, they'll take their time, and make sure that the
design isn't fundamentally flawed from a reliability standpoint ( MS),
isn't underpowered (Nintendo), and isn't suffering from a bottleneck
due to overenthusiastic expectations from the designer regarding some
new technological approach (Sony).  But that might make too much sense
for these guys...........

That would be nice but I wouldn't hold your breath. I'm not convinced
that Nintendo or Sony would heed your advice but I think Microsoft got
smacked way too many times to overlook this the next go-round.- Hide quoted text -

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Kutaragi is ooooout of the picture for Sony, and he was the instigator
of all the unrealistic hype starting from the PS1, so I think there'll
be a shakeup before PS4 begins development. Nintendo.........well,
maybe not, but they could be waiting until HD tech becomes cheaper to
produce, as hardware profitability is their focus.
Microsoft........well, we'll see. Between last-gen's Thompson DVD-
drive debacle and the RROD this time around, I don't have faith in
their hardware reliability, save the controllers (MS usually makes
decent, reliable controllers). I do have faith in their ability to
produce good, anti-aliased graphics.

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