Re: 11.6 million 360s, EVERY SINGLE ONE, defective



On Jul 13, 1:27 pm, "Tom" <no...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"The alMIGHTY N" <natle...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in messagenews:1184340353.665914.115580@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

On Jul 12, 9:42 pm, "Tom" <no...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The problem is the design; both
have said the the CPU and GPU are situated way to close to each other
causing excessive heat. If one gets even a slight amount of an airflow
problem (this can happen after just a month if dust bunnies build up
iunside), then the melting and breaking away of soldering points begin.

So basically if you don't cram the Xbox 360 into a tight space to
block off airflow, you're good to go?

My 360 (and that giant a$$ power brick) have always sat on the open
floor with nothing around them to allow for as much heat release as
possible. I read all the reports from the weeks following the launch
and was ready right after I picked it up on the second shipment.

I didn't say that, you did; I gave the description of the design and why it
overheats. If some don't keep their spaces clean where dust can build up,
you think that won't get inside the unit? I blow mine out at least once a
month with canned air (I do the same thing with my PC). That being said, not
every unit being manufactured will have perfect solder points, though the
process has a minimal standard of tolerance during quality control checks.
Some that get hot may melt ones that just make the tolerance. The ones that
don't had good welds and and better welds. It could be any number of things,
but the fact that it is happening en mass is totally unacceptable.

Absolutely. On the one hand, I think a lot of gamers aren't used to
having to worry about things like airflow. Most people I know kept
their past systems in the television stands right on top of other home
entertainment components. On the other hand, Sony accounted for this
in their design and have thus avoided these issues.

However, I think some of the talk from some posters about how all Xbox
360s are defective and it's a huge epidemic is a bit exaggerated. Last
I heard, it was about 33%... granted, much above the average defective
rate of about 3-5%.

I've had my box replaced, but not a the RROD, something else. But, the
design didn't change, and it is obvious that some units tolerate more heat
than others, and that is why they are dying. I am sure that some living
space are hot for my taste, I cannot stand it inside if it gets above 75º.
I have my 360 on a hard surface at the base of my TV stand, right off the
floor. My living space is a constant 67º, so overheating probably won't
happen. But most people don't keep their places as cool as mine.

I'm in a t-shirt and boxers in the middle of winter so that probably
helped a lot. :-)

.



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