Re: How much?
- From: "simon archer" <simonarcher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 10:19:43 GMT
so if u were offered a pay rise at work u would say no i dont need it ?
im sure if i was offered a stupid amount of money to do my same job i do by
someone else and conditions were better i would and i doubt anyone
wouldnt ud have to be dumb
"Anybody" <anybody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> In article <ZAwaf.8008$Hj2.5189@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, James
> Willmott <eatspam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Anybody wrote:
>>
>> >>>I'd be more than happy with much less than one-third of that
>> >>>over-bloated NZ$350,000. Hell, I *AM* happy with only about 1.5% of
>> >>>that stupidly insane amount. Selfish greed is one of the main things
>> >>>killing off this planet.
>> >>
>> >>You're on $5,000 a year? (1.5% of $350k) Or did you mean $50,000?
>> >
>> > Yes, I earn NZ$5,000 per year and yes that is all I need because I
>> > don't shovel my life full of expensive toys I don't need, watch mvoies
>> > I have no interest in, etc.
>>
>> And if you wanted a family, how far do you think $5k would get you?
>> Obviously you'd want more to be able to provide for them.
>
> That's never going to happen, and even if it was going to I would not
> need NZ$450,000 per year. However you look at it, such obscene salaries
> are made out of pure greed ... and it's us the average person who ends
> up paying for it with our taxes and the prices at shops.
>
>
>
>
>> > In article <kbqaf.56859$m%6.56778@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "simon
>> > archer" <simonarcher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> >>and ud all like knock back vast amounts of money dont think so
>> >
>> >
>> > Yes I would. I have NO interest in recieving obscene amounts of money
>> > for doing next to nothing ... I also have no interest in receiving
>> > obscene amounts of money for supposedly "working hard" or being just a
>> > celebrity.
>>
>> $5k a year would be mostly eaten up by rent...
>>
>> >>If you were on $5000 a year and had a lifestyle that reflected that
>> >>amount, and your pay got cut back to $3900, you'd be pissed. Admit it.
>> >>It's all relative.
>>
>> Why do you NEVER answer my questions?
>
> My earnings have had a maximum of about NZ$5,000 during the last six
> years, some years have been less - I'm not worried as long as I can pay
> my bills, which I can even at NZ$3,900 ... so to answer the question:
> no, I wouldn't not be "pissed".
>
> This women is "pissed" because she is going to have a pay cut which is
> around three times what the average person earns in a year - she's
> still getting around 10 times as much ... that is selfish greed. PLUS
> being a "celebrity" she no doubt already gets even more than that from
> other jobs like speaking or being a radio host, etc. during the time
> she's not on TV.
>
>
>
>> > It's not relative at all, and as long as I can pay my bills I don't
>> > give a damn how much I earn, which is why I work part-time for myself
>> > and charge peanuts (in comparison to greedy others) for the work I do.
>>
>> So you undercut the competition and devalue their services and that of
>> the industry you're in??? Well done, f^ckwit, it's people like you make
>> my life a misery, and you're the bane of most self-employed people I
>> know.
>>
>> I work hard for a living. I'm self employed, have a modest home and car
>> which I'm trying to pay off, I have a wife, a baby and dog to look
>> after. And morons like yourself who undercut me all the time because
>> they have no 'expenses' and charge peanuts, cause me to lose out on jobs
>> that could provide me with just a little more than just providing the
>> absolute bare necessities for my family. Just once in a while I'd like
>> to take my family on holiday up the coast for a night or two. But no,
>> someone like you comes along, charges less than 1/4 of what I'd charge,
>> gets all the deals, invariably does a crap job, and I get nothing.
>>
>> What you think are 'greedy' rates are probably quite justified, and the
>> margins that these 'greedy' people are making are probably quite slim.
>> Charging far less than fair market value is just unfair, regardless of
>> what crap justification you try and apply to make yourself feel good
>> about what you're doing.
>>
>> Your problem is that you just don't give a damn about anyone but
>> yourself. Don't bother replying to this, nothing you could say is of any
>> interest to me.
>
> A. You have no idea what I do.
>
> B. *ALL* my work is for organisations that wouldn't actually get anyone
> else to do the work because they can't afford the over-bloated
> prices most people charge. They're all NON-profit community-based or
> individuals and most of my time and expertise is given as voluntary.
> If I didn't do the work they would do it would be added to their own
> very busy (and under-paid) workloads themselves or not done at all.
>
> C. Like most businesses, you MAY need to look at your own charges
> to see how much of it is actually NECESSARY and how much is simply
> "keeping up with the other guys" charges.
>
> D. Your particular rates may well be "pared to the bone", but what about
> the prices your supermarket is charging you, the rates your petrol
> costs, etc., etc. If all those along the chain charged reasonable
> prices, then you could lower you're rates as well.
> Whether own your rates are based on your greed or not, they ARE
> based on someone's greed somewhere along the line, and in fact some
> of it will be because of the selfish greedy "celebrity" and
> "management" types with their over-bloated salaries that we ARE
> paying for.
.
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