Re: Oprah: Good Guest


lolajoker@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> I HATE to keep feeding this troll but ....
>
> <<<<"Elvis didn't have his own TV show. He would have loved to gush
> about his charity but every time he was invited on TV people told him to
> shut up and sing. Oprah by contrast is so brilliant she rakes in $225
> million year just for talking about herself. People want to hear about
> Oprah because she's Oprah. She doesn't need a gimmick like singing.">>>>
>
> Singing isn't a gimmick, it is a talent! Oprah my be a good business
> woman and a personality but she has no talent!


Oprah has no talent? LOL!!!!!!!!!!! Are you senile? I'd like to see
Elvis try talking off the cuff for an hour a day, hundreds of days a
year, and making it so fresh, so amusing, so intimate, so funny, so
entertaining, so spontanieous, so exciting that MILLIONS & MILLIONS &
MILLIONS & MILLIONS & MILLIONS & MILLIONS watch that instead of the
gazillion other hosts in the most competitive media age ever.

Oprah's quite quite simply the most talented person there is in this
business and has dozens of emmys, an Oscar nomination & $1.4 BILLION to
prove it. She's talented to the point of being supernatural. She makes
massive segments of the population laugh their heads off and cry their
eyes out on a regular basis. No one else can provoke such a range of
emotion. Oprah's so talented she was successful IMMEDIATELY. Not only
did she hit the number one spot on one of her first days, she went to
number one on her VERY FIRST DAY & got an Oscar nomination on her VERY
FIRST MOVIE. And now twenty years later, she's still number one.
Indeed, in the latest sweeps, she was up 27% making her not only the
top talk show in America, but now the number one show of any kind in
syndication.

Elvis may have been a good looking guy with a good sounding voice who
made waves by bringing black music to a white demographic, but Oprah's
absolutely sensational. She's better at hosting a talk show than just
about anyone is at anything. When they first watched her audition tape
when she first started in the business, the station manager nearly fell
out of his chair and said "Oh my God I'm not this lucky. This is the
best audition tape in the history of audition tapes. If this woman
doesn't belong on TV, then no one belongs on TV."


According to Elvis
> biograhies, he was constantly offerd TV shows and was in the highest
> demand for TV appearances which is why his satellite concert in 1973 was
> seen worldwide by more people than the first moon landing, 1.5 Billion
> people! ( which was a charity concert for Cancer) All of his TV
> appearances and his three specials were # 1 in the ratings that had huge
> ratings which Oprah will never equal.


1) That was a much less fragmented media age when huge ratings were
easier to score.

2) There's a world of difference between a TV appearance and a regular
TV show. Have Elvis sing on TV for an hour a day, 200 days a year, and
watch those ratings shrink by orders of magnitude.

3) Elvis didn't create his own songs and Elvis practices his
performances for years. Oprah spontanieously generates the dilagoue on
her show, making split second decisions about what to say when and
plays the audience like a piano. She's a brilliant improvisational
entertainer.


Knowbody ever told him to shut up
> and sing. He did several inteviews and press conferences between 1956
> and 1973.
>
> <<<<"Even adjusting for inflation Oprah made far more money than Elvis.
> Oprah landed the best deal in media. Elvis was a considered a terrible
> business man who was very ripped off by his shrewd partners.">>>>
>
> There is no way for you to know that. Elvis was the first movie star to
> make a million per picture and also have points in the profit and was
> the #1 box office draw. He sold more records than any other artist. He
> was the highest paid performer in the 70's.

I just read Elvis' net worth was $5 million. Oprah's net worth is $1.4
BILLION and growing every day.



True, Elvis was not a good
> business man like almost every other music artist in history but his
> manager (he had no partners) who handled his business, was one of the
> most shrewd managers in history.
>
> Actually, Dean Martin probably landed the biggest deal in media. He was
> paid $34 million dollars for three years for 1 hour work a week for his
> variety show in the mid 60's!(That's in 60's money!) (he never rehearsed
> and only came in and performed on the show for that hour, a stipulation
> in is contract)!

Comparing the ratio of money to time is a bad way to evaluate
business deals. By your logic a welfare recipinet gets the best deal of
all because he makes thousands of dollars a year and does no work at
all.



> <<<<"It was marketing genius on Oprah's part. Her ratings for that
> season went through the roof.
> She's so powerful she gets to give cars out of Pontiac's pocket, yet
> that still doesn't negate the NINE FIGURES of her OWN MONEY she gives
> behind the scenes.">>>>
>
> It has nothing to do with power. It was no different than Pontiac having
> a comercial on Dave. It was nothing more than just a commercial.


But the difference is a commercial just brings money to show; Oprah's
stunt brought cars to her viewers. She already rakes in hundreds of
millions a year in advertising revenue, but she has the additional
clout to get cars for her fans. Every variety show, game show, and
reality TV show tries to get sponsors to give big winnings to the
people on their show, but only Oprah has the clout to give away
hundreds of new cars in 2 minutes time.



It is
> Oprah that tries to portray it as her giving the cars out of her own
> pocket which is fraud.


Oh please. Bob Parker has been giving away cars for how many decades
and it was the most inocent thing in the world. But when a black woman
does it, suddenly it's fraud, suddenly it's a crime. With prejudice
attitudes like that, no wonder so many blacks land in jail. Peope are
simply jealous that a black woman has the clout to pull off the
biggest winfall in the history TV giveaways and the fact that she's
gets to rake in $225 million a year and look sexier than ever only adds
to the resentment.


Poor Pontiac thought that exposure on Oprah for
> their new car would cause it to become a big seller but it instead was a
> flop. A friend of mine sells ponitacs and he said that hardly anyone
> came in looking for the cars after that show and they had no increase in
> sales. So much for Oprah's power!

There are no sales figures for that particular car prior to Oprah's
giveaway so we have no idea what impact she had on the sales.

We do know that virtually ecvery book she endorses races to the top of
the New York Times best-seller list and when she vowed to never eat
another burger, sales sunk to their lowest point in 10 years. Certainly
the market research Pontiac did on Oprah lead them to conclude she was
worth the investment.

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