Re: That Awful Epilogue and Lord of the Rings

Welsh Dog <welshdog@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
: On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:49:59 -0500, Louis Epstein <le@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
: wrote:
:>Yellow <yell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:>: santosh [santosh.k83@xxxxxxxxx] said:
:>:> Moon wrote:
:>:> > santosh schrieb:
:
:>:> >> Whether you like it or not, quite a lot of themes and details in the
:>:> >> HP series have very strong parallels in LoTR.
:
:>:> > Strong parallels like what?
:
:>:> Frodo <-> Harry
:>:> Gandalf <-> Dumbledore
:>:> Nazgul <-> Dementors
:>:> Sauron <-> Voldemort
:>:> The Fellowship <-> Order of the Phoenix
:>:> Saruman <-> Grindelwald
:>:> One Ring <-> Horcrux
:>:> Beorn <-> Animagus
:>:> Morgoth <-> Salazar Slytherin
:
:>Some of these are rather weak.
:
:>: Out of interest (and you have rather got me thinking here) I've never
:>: got on with LOTR so have never read much beyond the first few chapters
:>: of the first book (did enjoy the films though!)
:
:>Ah,that's why we don't get along...I reread them cover to cover
:>over and over,and am deeply offended that films were ever made....
:
: Oddly enough I read them over and over but still love the films...
: except the execrable GoF <cough... spit>

I was referring to films of Tolkien...
HP films I can take or leave.

:>: where as I have found HP accessible and enjoyable so it is as well for
:>: me that we do not say that once themes have been explored by one author
:>: they are banned for being revisited by others.
:
:>I wouldn't say that,but I'd never elevate HP to the level of Tolkien!!
:
: Well no, but there's no denying that The Potter books were a massive
: cultural phenomenon of far greater proportions than Tolkien ever
: achieved... despite the reach of his world being immensely more
: impressive!!

Really?
I've always understood the Tolkien books to have caused a massive
cultural phenomenon in the 1960s of which modern Pottermania is
just an echo.

: Welshdog

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